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Old 12-24-2011, 10:14 PM   #1
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Help! Losing my mind with this ammonia

So, I'm very frustrated ! Having on going issues with ammonia in my FOWLR tank .
Here are the specs
-48G FOWLR
-2 clowns
-Not sure how many lbs of LR (got 2nd hand)
-2 filters currently an Aqueon 50 and aqua clear 50 (going to upgrade to a canister filter
-150W heater
- basic protein skimmer
-korlia 850

We are working on a sump. We have a CPR 300 overflow

We acquired this tank Nov 1st, 2011 and since then there has been ammonia. The water they came in was:
-ammo .0-1.2
- trates 0
-trites 0

When we filled the tank it was .6
Nov 2
Ammo 0.6-1.2
Trate 5
Trite 0.3
Ph 8
Salinity 1.022
Then on the 3rd of Nov , the ammonia dropped to 0 and I thought it was done and that the tank was going through a mini cycle from transporting the LR and that there may have been a bit of die off.
Then on the 4th the ammo is back
0.6-1.2
On the 6th I do a 50% WC and afterwards the ammonia is nearly 0
7th its back and it continues on in this fashion for quite some time .

Why are my water changes not having any effect ?
This tank was 4 years old and should be very well cycled .
I alone have had it almost 2 months and if it were needing to recycle should have by now .
Today.. Ammo 0.6
Trate 0
Trite 0.1-0.3
I did a huge water change 20G and with displacement of the LR there really wasn't that much room left for the clowns to swim . Test the water afterwards ... 0.6 how is this possible? *bangshead*
-I rinse my old filters in aquarium water
-I try not to overfeed
-I do pwcs
-I'm not overstocked
-I use declorinator (saving for RODI)

I want to get a CUC soon, but not until this ammonia can stabilize. I hate the thought of the clowns swimming in it so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:25 PM   #2
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Have you ever checked your source water for ammonia? Perhaps your municipality uses chloramine.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:29 PM   #3
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Yes I have , last week I considered it . There is nothing in the water
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:40 PM   #4
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something has killed your bb.

if you have a store that sells rodi try using that for your water changes and let it run for a while and see how that goes. hopefully you wont have to completely cycle again.
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:46 PM   #5
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No store here in Canada where I live that sells RODI , only 1 store here that even sells SW anything RODI unit is next on my list .. But still have no idea why or what could be causing this ammonia ?
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how about a grocery store? what kind of bottled water do they sell that may work?

this is just speculation but something in the tap water, who knows what, killed your bb that eats ammo. maybe all of your bb. just keeping fish in your tank is where the ammo is coming from... thats just my guess. wish i had more solid advise for you.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:24 AM   #7
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I don't think it's the water . I have 4 fresh water tanks that I test weekly and just tested yesterday as no ammonia in any of them ... So I've concluded how could it be the water ? This is so disheartening , I'm at a loss .
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If it was a new tank 3 days would not even start your cycle let alone complete it. If it was a used tank, the move probably created a lot of die off of bacteria. It would be struggling to catch up.
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It was a used tank that had been running for 4 years prior. That's what I initially thought that there was die off from. Moving the LR . However, ive had the tank since NOV 1st and surely if it needed to recycle or go through a mini cycle because of any due off in 2 months should have done this right ?
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how long was the rock out of heat and water circulation? ammo or nitrites posted really never where really off the charts.
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