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Old 01-07-2014, 12:29 PM   #1
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Hyposalinity in Display Tank

To cut a long story short, it looks like I've got Ich in my 240g FOWLR. Some of the fish I inherited over the holidays have spots. They are all eating fine and it does not look bad , but I am worried about future additions having issues.

My dilemma now is this...I can't possibly QT a large Desjardini Tang, large Engineer Goby, good sized Huma Huma, a Porcupine Puffer and a Valentini Puffer between my 45g, 30g and 15g. I think that the stress will do more bad than good. I know the general rule is "don't treat in your DT", but in a case like this, I am considering hypo in the DT as the least stressful option.

I've read several stories on various forums where people have done this successfully with no bad effects after salinity was brought back to normal. I've read various stories from hypo killing all BB to it simply slowing it down into a less effective state.

One minute I think I will just feed well and hope they will overcome this, but the next, I worry about expensive future additions having issues. Any feedback and/or suggestions are appreciated.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:44 PM   #2
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It can be done but it will be a ton of water changes. Beneficial bacteria will not die so don't worry about that. If it does anything it will slow down or go dormant which is easily remedied by a water change with fresh saltwater at 1.008 of course . In all the times I have done hypo the bacteria never slowed for me. For example 2 years ago I tried in the 180 and the new additions I have in qt is actually my 40 that I turned into a hypo tank by just doing fresh water changes . No issues with beneficial bacteria there also .
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:55 PM   #3
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I guess that is what I am not 100% clear on. I know in regular QT, I have done water changes, but that was due to ammonia and nitrite levels, even with seeded sponges from the DT. In this case, the bio in the 240g is in there between tank and sump, which I assume is much more than I've ever had with a barren QT. I think the larger scale is what has me worried. How often do you think I'd be doing changes with the messy eaters?
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Just maintain your normal water change schedule . If you do find the ammo rising / bacteria slowing do one then ( I doubt it is going to happen) . If nothing happens to the bb within a few days to a week you are in the clear. If it is going to happen it will happen then .
As far as feeding I would recommend feeding a bit less. In hypo there is less osmotic pressure on the outside of the fish . It let's them breathe easier and burn less energy which in turn will make them eat a bit less.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:34 PM   #5
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Sounds like a solid plan. I'm going to give this a shot and will keep this thread updated as things progress...
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:10 PM   #6
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Following, interesting to see how hypo goes in your DT! good luck.
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:08 AM   #7
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Is there a good calculator for dropping salinity? I did a 40g swap (tank water out and fresh water in) and it dropped from .023 to .020. I'm trying to figure out how many more before I start to get close to .008. The Tang is getting covered more and actually has some black spots down low when he is pale. He just started coming out so I can get good looks. I am wondering if those could be stings from apatasia, as the tank they came out of was infested with some huge ones. The Porcupine puffer has spots on it fins and tail today for the first time and the Trigger does not show spots anymore, but flashes from time to time. I saw the whole Engineer Goby today and it has a few spots. The Valentini puffer looks clear so far. I guess the good news is that nobody is breathing rapidly and all are eating great.


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Hate to tell you but you have about another 160 gallons to go . That is the downside on doing this on a large tank.
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I figured it was a big amount. . Its a labor of love though, so it is all good.
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Watch for rapid breathing, the fish can tolerate a few parasites on their bodies, but when they infect the gills, death follows close behind.
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