my first fish - Aquarium Advice

wabassoweird · 08-01-2006, 10:56 PM

I got my first fish 5 damselfish. i named them Randy Jackson, Bucky Covington, Steve z, Blue, and Audrey. Steve Z was sick as soon as i put him in the tank and he died later on. Blue doesnt look so good. But Bucky randy and audrey look real good. Audreys a yellowtail damsel and she just hides under a rock overhang is that normal?

FishFrik · 08-01-2006, 11:05 PM

Are you cycling with them?

08-01-2006, 11:33 PM

I have that feeling FF.

If this is a new tank you should bring the remaining fish back and use the "fishless cycling" method. Not only is it faster but much more humane for the fish. There are many resources we can give you to the "fishless method."

Let us know where you are at?

2revup · 08-02-2006, 03:30 AM

I second that Mike... take them back if cycling please.......

**roka64** · 08-02-2006, 09:57 AM

I agree, they might not make it through the cycle. What are you water parameters? How do you acclimate them? Don't fall into the LFS's advice. I have found this is a good place, the folks here are honest and not out to make money. Think of the LFS selling you fish, to cycle your tank, the fish die and the LFS gets to sell you more. What a profit. Don't worry, just take them back to the LFS and you can do the fishless cycle, like the others said. Please keep us updated.

wabassoweird · 08-02-2006, 01:41 PM

my tank had finished cycling about a week before i got the fish. i talked to a few of my friends from my local area and they told me the fish store that i got the fish is pretty unreliable.
the first fish that died looked sick at the fish store but the guy at the store told me it was okay so i trusted him. same thing with the fish that died this morning, it had a white mark on its side at the store and the mark quickly spread when he was in my tank. the other fish are eating and look real healthy.
I hope that i cycled my tank right. i got live rock that i put in my tank. i waited for the ammonia and nirite to peak and then disapate. the nitrate was up to 15ppm and then i did a 15% water change and the nitrate went to 10ppm. i waited another couple days and then got the fish. Is that enough cycling or should i have done something else? the whole cycling only took about 2 weeks is that long enough?

**roka64** · 08-02-2006, 02:52 PM

Sounds like it might be an acclimation problem, and possibly ich. If the one fish had white spots on him and they dropped off and then he got more. How did you acclimate them? You still want to get that nitrate down.

wabassoweird · 08-02-2006, 03:32 PM

alright now im freaking out. the fish that had the white spots on it was one of 2 yellowtail damsel that i got. now the other yellowtail is on the bottom of the tank looking sick. when i aclimated them i floated the bag for a hour and the slowly let the water into the bag.should i change the water now to get the nitrate down.

**roka64** · 08-02-2006, 04:02 PM

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should i change the water now to get the nitrate down.

Yes. Do you pre mix your water? If not, that might be a good idea, to get the pH/tmep/salinity the same or as near to your tank's as possible.

As for acclimation, here is a great drip method:
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/articl...q=2&fldAuto=18

wabassoweird · 08-02-2006, 04:13 PM

yea my waters pre mixed and ready to go but my little yellowtail damsel looks like hes dying should i let him die or should i get him out now incase he has the ich? hes been laid up against this rock for a few hours breathing really fast and not moving. i got a quick look at his other side thats against the rock earlier and i saw a white mark like the other one that died.

08-01-2006, 10:56 PM	#1
wabassoweird Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26	my first fish I got my first fish 5 damselfish. i named them Randy Jackson, Bucky Covington, Steve z, Blue, and Audrey. Steve Z was sick as soon as i put him in the tank and he died later on. Blue doesnt look so good. But Bucky randy and audrey look real good. Audreys a yellowtail damsel and she just hides under a rock overhang is that normal?

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FishFrik Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 801 Images: 1	Are you cycling with them? __________________ I'm one of those fishnutz, who are actually nutz.

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08-01-2006, 11:33 PM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a	I have that feeling FF. If this is a new tank you should bring the remaining fish back and use the "fishless cycling" method. Not only is it faster but much more humane for the fish. There are many resources we can give you to the "fishless method." Let us know where you are at?

08-02-2006, 03:30 AM	#4
2revup Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 167	I second that Mike... take them back if cycling please.......

08-02-2006, 01:41 PM	#6
wabassoweird Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26	my tank had finished cycling about a week before i got the fish. i talked to a few of my friends from my local area and they told me the fish store that i got the fish is pretty unreliable. the first fish that died looked sick at the fish store but the guy at the store told me it was okay so i trusted him. same thing with the fish that died this morning, it had a white mark on its side at the store and the mark quickly spread when he was in my tank. the other fish are eating and look real healthy. I hope that i cycled my tank right. i got live rock that i put in my tank. i waited for the ammonia and nirite to peak and then disapate. the nitrate was up to 15ppm and then i did a 15% water change and the nitrate went to 10ppm. i waited another couple days and then got the fish. Is that enough cycling or should i have done something else? the whole cycling only took about 2 weeks is that long enough?

08-02-2006, 03:32 PM	#8
wabassoweird Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26	alright now im freaking out. the fish that had the white spots on it was one of 2 yellowtail damsel that i got. now the other yellowtail is on the bottom of the tank looking sick. when i aclimated them i floated the bag for a hour and the slowly let the water into the bag.should i change the water now to get the nitrate down.

08-02-2006, 04:13 PM	#10
wabassoweird Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26	yea my waters pre mixed and ready to go but my little yellowtail damsel looks like hes dying should i let him die or should i get him out now incase he has the ich? hes been laid up against this rock for a few hours breathing really fast and not moving. i got a quick look at his other side thats against the rock earlier and i saw a white mark like the other one that died.