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Old 11-09-2011, 05:12 PM   #1
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My First Tank

Well, my daughter has specifically asked Santa for two clownfish for Christmas. This has given me the perfect excuse to start an aquarium, something I have wanted to do for years. Of course, with my husband deployed it is always good to keep busy After looking around (and having many a sales person try to convince me to do FW to no avail) I finally purchased a 28 gallon tank, got the sand, filter, circulation pump, water treatment something or other, salt, and some ghastly looking "jewels" in pink and purple that my 4-year-old princess insisted on since she couldn't get the pink gravel (went with live sand instead).

Of course, I had initially wanted a 10 gallon tank and even had the perfect place for it. Now I came home with a much bigger tank and nowhere to put it I decided to go to Wall-Mart to see what they had... I got a nifty looking writing desk thingy that would look okay in my living room. Anyhow, I got it home, tore open the box and sat back looking at it. I suddenly remembered that, well, the tank was a little heavy... water is definitely heavy (remembering from school that 1 liter = 1 kilo and there is about 4 liters in one gallon, not to mention the, what, 40-ish pounds of rocks... some quick guesstimation math quickly led me to realize that I would end up with a broken writing desk, shattered tank, and a flooded living room). So, I went back online and found a pretty decent looking stand at Petsmart (of all places). It kind of looks like wood, would do okay in my living room (yes, I care about the aesthetics - especially when I have to look at it all the time). So, that's how far I've gotten. I need to put the doors on the cabinet and THEN I can finally proceed.

I have a couple of questions, actually, I have a ton, but let's start with what's relevant right now. Do I need to rinse the live sand before I put it in the tank? Should I assume that the rocks at my local salt-water dealership are cured, if not, can I just put base rock in and wait for them to become alive? I'm going to try the dead shrimp cycle (somebody posted a link to it) - has anybody used this method and found that it works? I hate to put the little fish through more stress than necessary. Also, what in the world do people put as a back scene on their tanks? I don't really want to have a clear view to the filtration unit and whatnot. When I'm done with the shrimp cycle (the actual technical terminology per me), I'll probably put a couple of crabs, snails and maybe a goby. I'm not counting on putting anything delicate in the tank until after Christmas (two clown fish and a shrimp). Of course, I have big plans to upgrade it to a reef tank once I have everything established, so anything going in has to be reef "safe".

Thanks in advance for any comments and ideas!
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:49 PM   #2
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You are going to need a SW test kit so that you know when your tank has cycled. The key to SW tanks is to go slow. As for the water i would use RO/DI water. But deff get a test kit so that once you start you can keep an eye on ammo, nit, nitrate, and ph. Cycling your tank could take some time. It's possible it could be ready for fish by the end of Dec. but deff dont add anything until the tank has cycled.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:02 PM   #3
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Oh, this is going to be a fun build. But first, let me say thanks. Lots of people these days care enough to thank our soldier but I bet many forget what sacrifices the families are going through. So, I want you to know I appreciate it.

Sounds like you have done some research but if you have not read it yet, read this article. Cycle your salt tank It is very helpful.

The shrimp method works well but I used pure ammonia which also works well. Just make sure it is pure (Ace Hardware brand works great). Many people paint the back of the tank or places like PetSmart and PetCo sell backgrounds. They will cut what you need off a roll they keep in the fish department.

Do lots of reading on this forum and don't be afraid to ask questions.
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Quick answers to ur questions

No you usually don't have to rinse live sand

Your pet store will have cured live rock but it's pretty expensive. Look at craigslist, I got a lot of my live rock off there for half the cost. Also you can get majority of base rock and add some live rock and eventually it will become live and beautiful ( buy live rock with lots of Coraline)

I used the shrimp method and it worked well for me. The live rock you get will also help cycle your tank. Make sure you get a Sw test kit.

As far as backgrounds, you have a million options, you can let your child pick one

Let us know if u need more help. Cheers
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You don't want to rinse the live sand. If you do it could wash off the beneficial bacteria off of it. Also if you do base rock, you'll need a bit of LR to seed it. And yes Craigslist is a great place for LR.
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:33 AM   #6
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I did 2/3 live rock and 1/3 base rock so I could hide the base under and behind the live. I like the way it turned out. If you are patient, you can use more base and only a little live but that may slow down your cycle a bit and you would have to be very patient about increasing bio-load (more fish) to allow the BB to catch up.
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Thanks for all the advice!!! The tank is up and running, pH is great and so is the salt content. Now, I went to get a couple of live rocks so the tank can begin the cycle. When I got the rocks home I was checking them out and I noticed that I had a hitch hiker My question is, is my hitch hiking crab a good or a bad one? Any ideas? I'll probably play it safe and get rid of it, but I'm really curious.
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Thanks for all the great advice!! I got my live rock today and there was a crab included. I'm assuming it is a bad one and will get rid of it. I'm curious if anybody knows what kind it is tho.
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A general rule of thumb with crabs is: if they have hairy claws, they are bad. This dude doesn't look hairy, so I assume he is safe.

(Someone should be able to accuratley ID this fella though)
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Post that pic in the "Saltwater Reef - Identification" forum and I bet some experienced people will chime in.
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