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Old 12-17-2012, 11:48 AM   #1
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My levels high!!!!

My levels keep elevating, not sure why. I let it cycle and have been running it with fish for 2 months now.
I have a 25 gallon

My ammonia is 0.25
Nitrite is 0.50
Nitrate is about 10
Ph is 7.8
I only feed once a day
I have 2 clowns,a damsel, small tang, scooter, six line and clean crew (star, hermit, two snails)
Live sand and live rock
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:06 PM   #2
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What kind of filtration are you using? How often are you doing water changes? How did you cycle? How far apart did you add the fish?

IMO, That seems like a lot of fish for a 25g, especially to have if the tank is only two months old.

Also, IMO, the "small Tang" won't make it long either. Even the smaller ones, like Koles or Tominis, should have 55-75g.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:59 PM   #3
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What kind of filtration are you using? How often are you doing water changes? How did you cycle? How far apart did you add the fish?

IMO, That seems like a lot of fish for a 25g, especially to have if the tank is only two months old.

Also, IMO, the "small Tang" won't make it long either. Even the smaller ones, like Koles or Tominis, should have 55-75g.
+1...it looks like you don't have the bacteria present to handle the bioload as well because you shouldn't have ammonia and nitrites if you did unless you aren't fully cycled. Todd is right about the tang. They are VERY picky and not hardy when it comes to dealing with water stress from water issues. They are also very susceptible to disease and parasites just to let you know.
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Ok, so I appreciate your reply but can you offer any advice? So far you are telling me I may not be cycled and my tang will die.
I cycled the tank for a month then added my damsel. It finished its cycle and I added my scooter. 2 weeks later I added my two clowns. I added my 6 line 2 weeks later and my tang 2 weeks after that. All seems to be going great but my levels are up in the last 4 days.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:03 PM   #5
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How did you cycle the tank initially?

I will let someone with more experience with this sort of situation chime in with solutions. My guess is that you have too many fish, added too quickly and the beneficial bacteria produced during the initial cycle is not enough to keep up with the waste being expelled. The tank is probably cycling again. I'm not sure that water changes will be enough, but would probably be a good start. The ammonia and trites should be at zero after a cycle and having them present is not good for any of the fish.

The Tang might be okay in there for a while depending on what kind it is and how big it is, but being overstocked, that would be the first thing to take back, if possible.
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Ok, so I appreciate your reply but can you offer any advice? So far you are telling me I may not be cycled and my tang will die.
I cycled the tank for a month then added my damsel. It finished its cycle and I added my scooter. 2 weeks later I added my two clowns. I added my 6 line 2 weeks later and my tang 2 weeks after that. All seems to be going great but my levels are up in the last 4 days.
Okay, you have a 25 gallon tank with what sounds like 6 fish and I'm guessing you have some sort if CUC. To be very honest with you, that's too many fish. I need to read back in your initial post but how much live rock do you have? It sounds like you A) are over crowded which will not only cause you issues with water but stress out your fish and B) you don't have the amount of bacteria established for what you have. Immediate fix would be to do a water change. Get your levels of ammonia and nitrite to zero. This will eliminate some of the stress on your fish however you are going to need to do this and test your water everyday for a few days to see how long it takes for the ammonia to show again. Nitrites are just as deadly as ammonia by the way. I would consider getting rid of the damsel for sure. Depending on how much live rock you have, you may need to add some base rock so bacteria can start growing on it. Let me see what kind of filtration you have as well (if listed).
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See, you also have a CUC that puts off waste in addition to the fish.

How many pounds of live rock do you have? What kind of filtration are you using?

Basically, if you know for sure you were cycled prior to introducing fish, then my guess is that you lack a sufficient level of bacteria for the number of things in your tank. Even with adding base rock, if you are over crowding the tank it will be difficult to good water. Generally, people kind of go with 1 inch fish per every 5 gallons so if you have a 2 inch fish that's 10 gallons. Now, that can vary upon many factors and some will argue you can do more while others less however most who have been in the hobby a while will go with LESS...and that's the smartest way to do it.
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Thank you Nikki for your post. I don't know much about salt water fish, I've had fresh for 15 plus years. I read so much about it and tried to follow all the basic rules.
I have about 20 lbs of live rock
A skimmer
A carbon filtration

I have tested almost daily and did (at times) daily water changes. My fish are very active and seem content.
It's very frustrating because I thought I was doing ok until a day or two ago.
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How much should I be feeding my fish? Say in frozen cubes.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:30 AM   #10
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How much should I be feeding my fish? Say in frozen cubes.
With frozen I thaw out and strain through a net first. Feed little bits at a time and do it until they don't eat anymore. I feed every other day. I will also put a little in for my shrimp.

I've had saltwater fish for years and I learn something new all the time! It can be frustrating but once you get this issue settled it will help!
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