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Old 03-22-2011, 09:40 PM   #31
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thanks very much guys! you all have been helpful! will save this page and gather all the info n get started soon... my cichlid tank is waiting to be completed as well! lots of work! but loving it...

So just to finalize the important things... power filter, circulation pump, salt, sand, live rocks, let it cycle and then check amonia + nitrate levels!

thanks again folks!
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:01 PM   #32
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That's about all you need to start off with. Good luck!
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:06 AM   #33
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Wow i missed a lot, just caught up on the thread! Looks like your getting into a great start, make sure to post pics of everythingggg lol everyone here loves pictures!

When is her birthday?? Does she have any idea this is what you are planning to get her?
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:59 PM   #34
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Wow i missed a lot, just caught up on the thread! Looks like your getting into a great start, make sure to post pics of everythingggg lol everyone here loves pictures!

When is her birthday?? Does she have any idea this is what you are planning to get her?
LOl welcome back!

well now she does.. and this turned into a regular gift... cause i wanted to make it a surprise for her bday in June but i had to talk about it .. i needed to know if she actually is willing to take care of it because it's a commitment... i mean it's a small tank but it's still a saltwater aquarium.. so looks like we will be starting this weekend! lol and sure i will post pics
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:04 PM   #35
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And now another question guys... if you don't mind replying...

How would i get rid of nitrate and amonia in case of there being some in the water?!

Cause for my other freshwater tank, i'm still deciding if i should go with discus or african cichlids... (like i said i'm upgrading but i'm still deciding)

The new saltwater AND the discus tank will require SUPER low levels of amonia and nitrate... so i already have a canister filter... what else would you suggest for keeping an amonia and nitrate free tank?? also what's the easiest way to introduce CO2 to a planted tank?

are there any additives? or anything that helps beside keeping the water clean, not overfeeding and all that?
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:30 AM   #36
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That's probably a good idea to tell her about it....you couldn't get it all set up in one day anyways so it would be like "surprise here is a tank of rock and sand" haha

I try to stay away from all additives in my saltwater aquariums, the water changes should be enough to keep everything at a good stable level. Freshwater I'd assume would be the same. Additives tend to cause more problems in my opinion, especially in saltwater tanks. Some are not safe for the live rock, killing all beneficial bacteria, some cause murky water, some cause algae outbreaks, ect. I'm sure there might be some out there that are absolutely fine but i wouldn't know since I've never used them haha. I figure why add something that may have bad side effects if water changes work just as well and are a lot safer.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:45 AM   #37
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you should be good with a 14 gallon make sure you get them as babys tho even though it may take them awhile to grow when they are full adults they will probally outgrow the 14 gallon but if you get them as babys you should be ok for awhile, down the road just keep your eyes out for symptoms of stress and at that point just return em to the store or get a bigger tank but like i said thats way down the road so for a gift now you should be perfectly fine. you could throw some sea horses and pipefish with them 2 i believe my LFS has an awesome nano biocube with pipe fish sea horses and clowns and they look awesome your girlfriend will probally really like that (sea horses and pipe fish will require more attention and care tho just a headsup)
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:16 AM   #38
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I'm sorry Jarrett but i think seahorses and pipefish in a 14 gallon with two clowns is a terrible idea.

- that is way overpopulated
- seahorses need to be fed twice a day...making the upkeep of that tank extremely hard
-clown fish eat extremely quickly compared to seahorses, therefore you will need to feed even more to ensure that the seahorses will get food
-seahorses will get stressed being in a tank that size with two clowns, since seahorses are extremely prone to any diseases they will likely get sick and die since they are also very hard to treat

The list could go on and this all applies for pipefish as well (pipefish also need a much larger tank, unless you got a bluestripe pipefish, which i would still not recommend)...Sorry for the little rant but i keep seahorses and have done ALOT of research on them. I would not recommend that for your 14 gallon unless it was a species only tank with two seahorses max (or dwarf seahorses), that is also a whole different setup in terms of flow, temp, salinity, and hitching posts.

Sorry again Jarrett I'm not trying to be completely rude and bash your post!
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Not rude at all sir you make valid points but it is possible because I see the tank almost every day and its in perfect condition just requires a lot of care and attention
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I agree with Kelsey. Just because someone else does it doesn't mean it's the right way to do things. Not only would the competition for food be an obstacle, but we all know how aggressive clowns can get. Seahorses are way too fragile. There's no way I'd ever personally try that. It's just not worth it.
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