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Old 12-19-2011, 05:17 PM   #21
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No issues with switching though I would have gone with uncured rock to help the cycling of your tank. What are you currently using to cycle your tank? You need something to get the cycle going like a frozen piece of shrimp or a hardy fish like a damsel.
you don't want to torture a fish to cycle a tank. you can use any ammonia source.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:56 AM   #22
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I too have become obsessed with the hobby. Outside of the navy I got a second job so I could have more money for it. And the cardinals are a peaceful fish so I would add them first. Not all at once though, two fish at a time. Then you could add the goby then for sure add the clowns last since they will be your most aggressive fish. If you add in that order you shouldn't have any issues with territory.

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Haha, I'll have to create a budget, saving an allocated amount form my wage, just to fuel this new passion. All stemmed from numerous scuba diving excursions.

So I have added some live sand to the mix, creating a deep sand bed, in order to try and use all and any means of natural filtration (will be adding refugium soon). However I haven't installed a plenum. Will adding sand shifting live stock (suggestions to what species) aid in reducing toxic gas build up within the sand, or do i need to add this?



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I've heard different things about using sand sifting critters with a dsb. The biggest thing I've heard is you don't want them, cause if they do make it down to the bottom of the dsb they can release the toxic bubbles and wipe your tank.

On my nano I have add more live sand for a nice dsb of 5". The only "sifter" I have is a diamond goby and then my watchman goby ( not really a sifter). The diamond goby doesn't do much digging and my watchman dug himself a nice cave about 1/2" deep and hasn't been digging since.

In the pass 5 weeks of the tank being fully operational I haven't seen an issue. But there is one lfs out here that has told their customers they won't even sell a sifter critter if they know it will be in a tank with a true dsb. I don't think you'll have any issues though.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:12 AM   #24
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Don't do a damsel. It will most likely die. Put a frozen raw shrimp in.
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And I agree with sticking with gobies for a dsb. Gl!!!!!
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Don't do a damsel. It will most likely die. Put a frozen raw shrimp in.
I was under the impression, with ls and lr, i didn't need an ammonia source. Is the shrimp a must for a source of ammonia?

As for sand shifters, i was thinking of a mandarin. I know this is a hard fish to care for, so next week i'm going to get a refugium, with algae and some copepods. And start breeding them as a source of food, and use the algae as a nitrate and phosphate eater.

Thus once the mandarin arrives, feeding it shouldn't be a problem. Then get some ocellaris, as of any other fish, not quite sure yet.

Clean up crew to contain some scarlet hermits, maybe some other species of hermit. Some snails, and a emerald crab... they look so cool.
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Mandarins arent sand sifters. They are absolutely not for a new tank, I have one and it was alot of work and effort to get her to eat frozen food. Alot don't ever make the transition.

I also had a pod grow out tank and it was pretty much a dud as far as it goes. I had live rock, chaeto, heater, light, filter and even put in a few thousand pods but the tank never took off.
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Mandarins arent sand sifters. They are absolutely not for a new tank, I have one and it was alot of work and effort to get her to eat frozen food. Alot don't ever make the transition.

I also had a pod grow out tank and it was pretty much a dud as far as it goes. I had live rock, chaeto, heater, light, filter and even put in a few thousand pods but the tank never took off.
Humm... well i guess i'll leave the mandarin out until i feel that i have established quite the pod colony, and am comfortable they have established themselves.

so what do you reckon is a good sifter? Gobies, as mentioned above?
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I have some gobies and none really sift sand for me. LOL I have a yellow watchman and a pink spotted that are known to sift but they dont. :-( Not all gobies sift. i have some clown gobies and a citron goby all of which arent known to sift.

You're kind of limited on fish, is this still a 10g build? Or did you go with a bigger tank?
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