Originally Posted by POLARBEAR0871
Well I don't think I'm torturing them they seem to b fine you people are crazy with fish the fish is fine I've had live rock in there for three weeks and then I've had the power head going for two weeks before I got the damsels and trust me there's not many hiding places in the tank I can easily pick up the live rock to catch them
Just my 2 cents. However you take it, please nobody try to argue with me. Just giving out my opinion.
Yes, you can traditionally cycle with fish. It will cycle, but you are still putting your fish at risk. You can keep a close eye on it and it will help but you yourself, (the most valuable resource to the tank) cannot be available 24/7. So, if something goes wrong, then there goes your fish. Also, just because your LFS
owner has been in business for 30 years doesn't mean he always knows what he's doing. He's still a human. My father is a believer in the traditional cycle and is very closed minded to any other ways. Just because you cycle with fish doesn't mean you'll cycle faster either. I'm not a huge outgoing, you're going to hell for torturing animals kind of person but I do try to be humane as possible. I mean, a fish being in a tank full of ammonia with nothing to break it down is like us being in a room full of carbon dioxide without a window. Now that I'm done preaching to you, here's my suggestion.
Get some pure ammonia, a raw shrimp, fish good or whatever. It'll save you stress and time. You won't have to do all this WC
and have to worry about the fish. If anything man, at least cycle for a whole month without fish before putting them in. They'll at least have some BB. Hell, if you wait a month with fishless it might get all the way cycled! But any prescience of sustained ammonia is dangerous! IMO
buddy! Either way though, good luck!