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Old 08-04-2013, 10:57 PM   #21
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Since he had live rock for weeks before he got fish the tank probably had started to cycle already so the fish will be going through less of an ammonia spike IMO
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:04 PM   #22
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That's what I was trying to tell people
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:06 PM   #23
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Who knows man? If they die, they die. If they dont, they don't. I mean, that's a harsh prospective but true. Haha! When the cycle finishes, treat them like kings for surviving!
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:07 PM   #24
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Lol defiantly
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:12 AM   #25
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Well, to cycle a tank is to introduce an ammonia source. With a cycle using fish, the fish make ammonia with their waste. This ammonia is poison to fish. I don't see how you can take care to not torture the fish seeing as they must swim in ammonia filled water.
It seems you're stuck in you way of thinking, it's sad that so many people see a method of cycling as cruel because they don't understand how to properly maintain safe levels.

With testing and water changes the ammonia/ nitrites will not reach a high level.

Fishless cycling is boring. That's the whole top and bottom of it.

People claim it's the best way to cycle a tank but it's not.

If you're using LR and LS then it's no different from using a seeded filter in a freshwater tank.

A light stocking and dedicated monitoring of the water quality is a lot better than staring at an empty tank for a month or so.
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I've been looking at An empty tank for bout 3 weeks with no fish
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:02 PM   #27
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It seems you're stuck in you way of thinking, it's sad that so many people see a method of cycling as cruel because they don't understand how to properly maintain safe levels.

With testing and water changes the ammonia/ nitrites will not reach a high level.

Fishless cycling is boring. That's the whole top and bottom of it.

People claim it's the best way to cycle a tank but it's not.

If you're using LR and LS then it's no different from using a seeded filter in a freshwater tank.

A light stocking and dedicated monitoring of the water quality is a lot better than staring at an empty tank for a month or so.
You cannot build a strong bacteria colony doing water changes during a cycle. You are quite mistaken.
The bacteria colony depends on the ammonia levels.
Live rock taken from the ocean and left in cargo containers for weeks at a time before you get it do not have beneficial bacteria on them. What they have is die off. The die off then rots and creates ammonia thus starting the cycle. Sad? Whats sad is people killing things for no sensible reason at all.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:59 PM   #28
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I followed all these forums for a year before I got my tank. Mr. X knows his stuff. I believe everything he says. Some people will never learn. And will lose a lot of money and fish in the process.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:26 PM   #29
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Ok I don't understand what he told me
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:38 PM   #30
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There are multiple ways of achieving the same ends. If done correctly they can all be done successfully and responsibly. That's kinda a neat thing about this hobby. I'm a bit unclear on whether this is a SW or FW tank. Sorry if I missed the clarification, but I saw danios mentioned and now a discussion of LR.

Check out the articles section for information either way.
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