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Old 01-17-2014, 07:56 PM   #61
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Idea!!! I have an idea!! Take your voltage meter to your LFS and test one of their tanks. I know it's only .7 but I gotta think that any current is too much. I'd test mine, but I'm not home right now
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:06 PM   #62
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1500 gph each or total water flow? The gentleman who sold us our 55 gallon in 06 recommended a minimum of 12x the tank volume of circulation excluding the filter return (I had a canister with that tank) so I figured the 700gph and 900gph power heads I had in there were sufficient. If not, I can definitely add more!
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Yes, you need more IMO. Two 1500 gph power heads AT LEAST.
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Some pumps have petroleum based lubricant inside them. If the seals are compromised, this can cause problems. The lab test on the water should rule this out. Also, you may see some oil-like slick on the surface.
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Old 01-17-2014, 09:17 PM   #64
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Some pumps have petroleum based lubricant inside them. If the seals are compromised, this can cause problems. The lab test on the water should rule this out. Also, you may see some oil-like slick on the surface.
Any recommendations for a lab to test the water? I found aquariumwatertesting.com and they look good, but not sure they test enough parameters to help in this case?
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Two more items that have come to mind.

First, rust in the tank. Not sure what I was thinking, but I have a metal hose clamp securing the skimmer pump to its hose below water line in the sump. I think this clamp was used near the bulk heads in the previous set up as I used plastic clamps every where else. From what I have found, I don't -think- a little rust will harm the tank, but could this cause the problems I am having?

Second, how about the possibility of the rocks themselves being toxic? Many are from our initial set up and all are at least 4 1/2 years old. Could "old tank syndrome" be the cause? We took great care to make sure the rocks did not leave the water when moving them out of and back into the tank during the reset and during the move in 09.

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I highly doubt rust is an issue, 2 reasons, 1) I have had clamps/screws/ whatever in my tank that have rusted, and ive never seen or experienced a almost instant death issue like yours and 2) if it WAS the rust, the fish would die in the qt tank just or bucket just as fast.
as for the rock. unless you used a chemical on them at some point, they should be fine
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Old 01-18-2014, 12:46 AM   #67
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I highly doubt rust is an issue, 2 reasons, 1) I have had clamps/screws/ whatever in my tank that have rusted, and ive never seen or experienced a almost instant death issue like yours and 2) if it WAS the rust, the fish would die in the qt tank just or bucket just as fast.
as for the rock. unless you used a chemical on them at some point, they should be fine
No chemical's have been used unless Melafix counts. I am really running out of ideas
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Melafix-
Some consider there to be real dangers with the use of Melafix in fish aquariums. Being that Melafix is an oil based product, it is said that the oil can make it difficult for fish that breathe air. There are theories for why this happens, but what has been shown is if proper water parameters are maintained, there's generally not an issue.
Melafix needs to used as directed. Many issues that come from the use of Melafix is the fact that it is being used incorrectly. The medication is a mild antibiotic. It can be used to treat mild infections, but used in other ways than intended, could result in the real problem not being treated correctly and Melafix appearing to be the cause of the issue. Knowing the infection and properly treating is a must.

Still, the inverts living through it would make me think it's something else.
I googled "Water testing facility Cleveland Ohio", and came up with plenty of labs. Check it out.
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Melafix-
Some consider there to be real dangers with the use of Melafix in fish aquariums. Being that Melafix is an oil based product, it is said that the oil can make it difficult for fish that breathe air. There are theories for why this happens, but what has been shown is if proper water parameters are maintained, there's generally not an issue.
Melafix needs to used as directed. Many issues that come from the use of Melafix is the fact that it is being used incorrectly. The medication is a mild antibiotic. It can be used to treat mild infections, but used in other ways than intended, could result in the real problem not being treated correctly and Melafix appearing to be the cause of the issue. Knowing the infection and properly treating is a must.

Still, the inverts living through it would make me think it's something else.
I googled "Water testing facility Cleveland Ohio", and came up with plenty of labs. Check it out.
I only used the Melafix this once this past time since one of the percs looked to have some sort of infection that I missed in the QT above his eye & I was grasping at straws. This was the first time ever I have used any medication in the DT (& since I'm not a fish disease expert probably the last!), so it can't be the root of the current problem. The inverts have not lived through the current problem as far as I can tell (there is literally nothing obviously alive in the tank; I don't even see copepods), they just lingered longer and were wiped out in months, not minutes. Thanks for the info about Melafix; the LFS always touts it as such a benign fix-all product. I'm hoping my carbon filter will have cleared it by now. I've found a few water testing labs through Google as well & if no one has any experience with any particular one, I'll pick one shortly since that is the only next step I can think of. Thanks for your continued guidance!

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I keep referring to the inverts because generally, they are the first things to go if there's a problem. If it was something toxic, I would see the shrimp go belly up long before the fish.
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