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Old 08-14-2008, 01:51 AM   #1
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Ok got a lil dilema that goes through my head everyone morning when i wake up and feed my beautiful fish there 5-star breakfast, then it continues as i go into work and see all the beautiful invertebrates and crustacions (SP?) Here it is. Right now i have a 55 gallon FOWLR tank. In it currently i have a Niger trigger, Blue Throat Trigger, 4 Damsels, Scopus tang, Snowflake, Cream Angel, Tomatoe Clown. I want to be able to keep urchins, crabs starfish snails anenomies all that good stuff. Not so much Corals. Not in this tank. I will do that in the future on a diff project. But for now this is all i got. I know to be able to add these lil fellows i will DEF need to get rid of Snowflake, Niger, n Blue Throat. well Snowflake is going back tomorrow while i still can get my 100% back cause the lil punk keeps jumping out..lol. But there is no way in Heck I can get rid of Niger i mean its my fav fish of all time. So what should i do guys??? Keep my tank the way it is, and keep adding some more LR. And just get maybe a 14 or so BioCube? then have that as my invertebrate tank with some lil clowns or psuedochromis's? U guys let me know. I have a beautful Niger too, i know that they are easy to get in at our store, but i really take to my fish, i know some ppl feel that they are disposable, but not me? SOO CONFUSED..NEED UR HELP
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Old 08-14-2008, 02:19 AM   #2
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Way to many fish in a 55 gallon.
Cream angel and trigger rated 70 gallon min.

Get a bigger tank. I hop you have a skimmer?
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:12 AM   #3
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there completely fine in my tank. saltwaterfish.com rated 55 for angel. its all preference, and the size of the fish
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But there is no way in Heck I can get rid of Niger i mean its my fav fish of all time. So what should i do guys???
I think you answered your own question. You know you can't have inverts with the niger trigger. I assume you also know that trigger can get to be 12" long, which is the width of your tank from front to back. Maybe a little cramped for that fish?
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Well, saltwaterfish.com also says a certain tang gets to be 1-3 inches, when in reality, it get to grow to about a foot......
Blue Hippo Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus)

as opposed to this:
Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: Blue Tang

I think they are a little misinformed.
The triggers, tang and Angel all need at least a 70G tank.
How long has it been up and running?
You are at 46 inches of adult fish in a 55G, not including the damsels. Unfortunately, you may start having issues in the near future if you don't upgrade that tank or take some of the poor fish back.
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If removing some of the fish into another tank is the only way of getting some out of the 55 then you`ll need to do so. That`s a large bioload for that size tank. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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I understand, but you gotta remember that the fact of fish grow to the size of their environment. Ive had a niger in a 29 for 4 years before, and never grew bigger than a medium. So your telling me that Im going to wake up one day and my Niger is going to be a foot long?? LOL, I dont think that will happen. My niger is 3 inches long, and yea if he grew to be too large for my aquarium i have a 90 gallon setting up right now. Obv if he got too big i would take him back, you guys are acting like i would just leave him in there to die cmon. The question i had posted here wasnt about how my "bioload" is, it was the question about the inverts. But we'll c ill keep you guys informed. There are alot of people that dont go "Buy the book" and establish perfectly fine tanks with water quality. I ran all my tanks for a week with nothin but jumbo shrimp. And im sure as iv seen here that alot of ppl here prolly frown on that, and think that YOU MUST cycle for a month and a half. But ive had perfect water quality, and fish. So that is JMO. Thanks
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I understand, but you gotta remember that the fact of fish grow to the size of their environment.
In a way you are right but not in the sense you are talking about. Their growth is stunted being in a smaller tank. This usually results in illnesses and can lead to death. I personally think that some of our diseases are because of these stunted growth envionments. I had a person on this site many years ago that confirmed this. He`s not here any more but all that remember Steve S. know who I`m talking about. Most knowledgeable SW person I ever met. You asked for opinions and I`m giving you that. JMO
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We are also talkin about a really Hardy fish, Now if i had put a Moorish Idol in my tank, i would understand you a hundred and fifty percent.
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I understand, but you gotta remember that the fact of fish grow to the size of their environment. Ive had a niger in a 29 for 4 years before, and never grew bigger than a medium.
You HAD it for 4 years. Where is it now?
You may want to read Faq's on Growth Limiting Chemicals and Growth Inhibiting Substance(s) of Fishes.
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