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Old 09-12-2013, 05:39 PM   #11
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Ok. Huma huma said for a detailed explanation, here it is. I got home from work two days a go when i went to do my daily tank check and feeding, he was at his usual spot next to the overflow box. When he got off to eat, he was a dark blackish color, when he is normally white. This happened before, but it only lasted for a couple of minutes. He was literally crashing into the tank walls, so i got him in a transportation box and put him in quarantine. His color started to return, but he was still crashing. I keep checking up on him, until 2:00 am when i go to let out my dog, i find him dead in the quarantine.
Parameters are normal, and nothing dropped or anything. Salinity was 1.023, ammonia was 0, nitrite was 0, nitrate was 15, ph was 8.1. If you have any ideas on what problem this situation? Thanks for your support!
The problem is your tank. He kept crashing into walls because he wanted more space. Plus your nitrate is way to high, should all be 0. Nitrate can kill a fish as well. It's a sign of your tank not being fully cycled.

From all my research I did for you, it sounds like he was stressed. Plus the Nitrates can be an issue. In my honest opinion I don't think the tank size is your issue here. I think your tank is not done cycling and the Nitrates are too high. The tank size is a concern because it can cause problems down the road. The crashing into the sides could be a sign of him being stressed because of the tank issues. How often do you do a water change? I would do at least a 20% water change every 2 days for at least a few weeks.
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Nitrates being present does not mean a tank is not cycled, it is ammonia and nitrites that show that. Many tanks will have nitrates, which is partially the reason for regularly scheduled partial water changes. You do want to keep nitrates as close to zero as possible, but they typically don't stay at zero without help.
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Ok. I've thought about it, and im gonna take your advice about the stock list. Im thinking of trading in the trigger, because he is getting too aggressive ( I think is about like you said, it could be because of small conditions) . Im thinking of converting to a more fowlr reef fish setup. Would a porcupine puffer work in that along with a blue tang? I know you guys may think my mind is all over, and it kinda is, but this is my first tank,and I unfortunately have learned a little bit the hard way. I know that these fish may outgrow this tank, but I will either trade in or upgrade tank. So, any advice ??? Thanks thetodd for sharing the advice about too big fish. That all ads up now.
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Both of those would do better in a larger (180+) IMO. It could work for a while if they are small, but then my argument about "too small tank" kicks in.

What I would suggest is look at liveaquaria.com for Suggested Tank Sizes. They tend to go larger than places like Bluezooaquatics, but I tend to agree that going big can not hurt...going smaller had potential for negative consequences.

Being all over the place probably happens to most of us. I've got a 240g that I am setting up and I change my stocking list daily.
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Okay. I've already looked at liveaquaria , infact, im gonna start using them for future purchases. (Not good stores in Southern California besides stores in LA, which is a 2 hour drive. ) what my main question is is will a porcupine puffer be able to live with small fish like ocellaris clownfish and watchman gobies.
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I am not sure...I have never owned one (thinking about it for my 240g, just not sure).

Where are you in SoCal? I lived in Orange County and used to like the store in Brea and there was one down in Alison Viejo that I liked. I connected with someone on Craigslist that can get just about anything and his prices are much less than any LFS (aussie Harlequin Tusk for $75, Foxface $20, Mystery Wrasse $60, Blue Jaw Trigger $30, etc). I'm going to try him out and see how that goes. He's based out of Cerritos.
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I live in riverside. Have you heard of global aquatics?
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With a 100 gallon tank you can get all sorts of colorful fish! I personally wouldn't limit myself to a few BIG fish! You can so much color it would be crazy! Get a Six Line Wrasse! They are really cool fish!

Good luck, and the trigger fish is a very good looking fish, but they can be very aggressive and limit your stock list. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if your Dog Face was being chased by him.
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Ok. Thanks! By uncle had reef tanks, so I bet he had a six line before. Any others? And also, would a porcupine puffer work with these fish? Im planning on keeping him until he gets too big for the tank.
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