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Old 02-24-2005, 12:10 AM   #1
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Reef vs FOWLR

This is the prices of Reef vs FOWLR that I've worked up, please tell me if there is any changes you would make, or if there is a better/cheaper item I could substitute. These are not including the test kits.

Reef Tank

55g tank w/ hood - $100
5500k Venture Single-ended metal halide bulb (Do I need a special lighting system other than the hood the tank comes with?) - $92
40lbs liverocks.com keys rock, 40lbs liverocks.com gulf rock - $425
2 Rio powerheads - $30
100w heater - $23
thermometer - $5
Remora Pro Protein Skimmer - $158
=$833

FOWLR

55g tank w/ hood - $100
2 fluorescent lights ‚Äď $18
Eheim Pro wet/dry filter- $200
Rio Powerhead - $15
100w heater - $23
thermometer - $5
40lbs liverocks.com keys rock $224
=$585

As it is now I am leaning more towards the FOWLR, please criticize.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:11 AM   #2
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I forgot to put down the cost of Home Depot sand, so add $10 bucks or so to both.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:26 AM   #3
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Go with the FOWLR you can have way better looking fish. Also you can have a predator tank. I am happy with mine.

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Go Fish Only!!!! We need some more non-coral folks on this board :P

Seriously, without corals, nitrates are much less of an issue, you don't have to worry about lighting, dosing calcium and nutrients, feeding plankton, and wondering if that critter you had your eye on is REALLY "reef-safe".

I love my fish!
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:45 AM   #5
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Reefs are great, but the animals I have (and wanted) do not treat corals very well.
Fish rule!!
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Go with the FOWLR you can have way better looking fish. Also you can have a predator tank. I am happy with mine.

bad advice imo ! for one you only have a 55 gallon or looking to buy a 55 so your predators will be limited for sure in that size tank!

also no way predators are better looking than more docile reef fish!

there are happy mediums here if you go fowlr and get some small butterflys or angels

your price for the mh is only for the bulb not the ballast please do some more research on this matter but your off by at least $200 for just lights at the minimum!

also rio powerhead are the worst! go with maxi-jets 1200
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Ah, didn't pay attention. I agree with Keith, get a bigger tank if you can swing it.
Many more options.
For a true predator tank, think 120 gallon or better IMO.
Also don't rule out going a little less aggresive so you can get some mobile invert. They can be as much fun as the fish.
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It's settled, FOWLR it is. The only predator I was wanting was a dwarf lionfish actually. I will go with the maxi-jets 1200 as well. So everything else on the FOWLR list is good?
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Eheim Pro wet/dry filter- $200
if ya want to burn money on this sure
i wouldnt for two reasons
1) this isnt a good one and alot of money imo
2) wet/dry filters are soooooooooooooooooo easy to make for so cheap! i made one for my 70 gallon using a rubbermade tub and a tall kitchen garbage can that will fit width ways in the tub cut a few slits in the side of the can facing the opposite side of the tub then fill with balls ! no for a drip plate i used a tuppaware pan that fit perfectly in the kitchen can and on top of the balls and heated up the end of a small file and poked alot of holes into it ! and its been keeping my puffer's/grouper alive for years now ! all for less than $70 pluss i have room for my pumps ect..
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To understand exactly what you mean I guess I'll need to know more about wet/dry filters and how they work. At the moment all I know about them is that they clean your water. Do you (or anyone else) have a picture of a homemade one I could use for reference?
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