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Old 04-20-2010, 06:51 PM   #11
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I was actually hoping that NO nitrifying bacteria would develop.
I havent added anything to seed the cycling process with bacteria, so I imagine it would take quite awhile for any bacteria to form. I am watching the others as well (nitrite and nitrate). They are both zero. Ammonia is staying the same each day and only reduces when I change the water. Ammonia isnt climbing so I am assuming, along with the fact that nitrites and nitrates are 0, that the junk is done decaying into ammonia.

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Old 04-21-2010, 12:24 AM   #12
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No matter what you do the "Junk" will turn into ammonia, the ammonia will turn into nitrite and the nitrite will turn into nitrates all you are doing is changing the water and most of the bactreria is in the rock. All you are doing is using allot of saltmix.
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Here is what I am getting at...The rock was out in the air, dry, sitting in a bucket at the LFS. There wasnt any nitrifying bacteria present. I put them into a bucket of old tank water and found that there was ammonia present from decaying matter in the rock. My reasoning is that the junk will rot out completely before any nitrifying bacteria become present since I havent added any kind of material that is seeded with good bacteria. I know that it will eventually find its way, but people talk about months going by waiting for a cycle when doing it without seed material.

Now I guess a possibility is that the old tank water may have enough good bacteria that happen to be suspended in it to now be working on the ammonia. This would defeat my reasoning. Other than that, I dont see how nitrites can form. Since I dont need the extra bacteria, seems I could skip the cycle process altogether.

Think of this as a DEEP DEEP cleaning.

Thats really what I am up to...Or at least, what I want.
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If you put one small piece at a time in and wait a day or two it shouldn't rock your system, depending on how much LR and other places for bacteria you have. I would say if you have 50lbs of LR and has been good for a while I would add the rock one piece at a time if you see a spike that's got you a little worried then take the rock back out, but if the first one works with no problems I would add one rock every few days till it's done.
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Matt, by seeding, you are talking about things like bristleworms and other macro life...you are trying to completely remove all organic life from your rock and that is why you cure LR because there is no way to get all organics out of the rock. You have rock that was once live and then taken out and put into a bucket. It was full of bacteria(LR) and seeded with macro life from the tank(life that is bigger then bacteria). If you had totally dead rock then you would need to add an ammonia source to start the cycle, not the "curing" process.
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