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Old 12-16-2003, 06:40 AM   #21
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Excellent! Did you have it on a normal light schedule and all? Did you dip the rock, or just place it direct?
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:34 AM   #22
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Whether you do water changes or not, should be dependant on whether you get a spike and how high it goes. I suspect it will go higher than .25, but ynk. However, I highly recommend you have a couple 5g buckets on hand, one mixed to the proper SG (using carbonated water) and one mixed to the appropriate SG using RO/DI water. Dunk the rock in the carbonated SW first and let it sit for a minute, the fizzing will drive mantis and other unwanted hitchikers nuts and cause them to flee the rock to get away from it. Then dunk the rock in the RO/DI SW and place it in the tank. Be prepared to put the beneficial hitchikers back in the tank, they don't like the fizzing either
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highly recommend you have a couple 5g buckets on hand, one mixed to the proper SG (using carbonated water) and one mixed to the appropriate SG using RO/DI water. Dunk the rock in the carbonated SW first and let it sit for a minute, the fizzing will drive mantis and other unwanted hitchikers nuts and cause them to flee the rock to get away from it. Then dunk the rock in the RO/DI SW and place it in the tank. Be prepared to put the beneficial hitchikers back in the tank, they don't like the fizzing either
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Hey Kevin wanna put some money on it??? lol

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Old 12-16-2003, 01:10 PM   #24
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BTW yes I did have it on my normal light schedule... I didnt dip it but wish i would have.. I only had 2 mantis is 100lbs though and I caught them both.. However i did have a mated pair of pistols and an extra one lol still have yet to catch them...


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Any preference on carbonated water. I am a pierre fan myself, but maybe I'm just a snob

Seriously though, I would want to remove the mantis shrimp and pistol shrimp and bristle worms. Is there anything else I should look out for? How long would they survive in the carbonated water before causing damage to the beneficial species?

The pistol shrimp are just removed because of the loud noise they produce, correct?

If there were ones I could not recognize, could I house them temporarily in my 3 gal tank until I could get them Identified if the water conditions were the same as my tank?

I've edited this 3 times now, but more questions:

Would the dips hurt the other life forms such as the sponges, corals, feather dusters, nudibranch or whatever has decided this rock isn't too bad a place to live?
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The mantis definitely, the pistol...depends how you feel about them (they are diggers), leave the worms, unless they are over 4-4". The smaller ones are benificial detrivores.

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Crabs, unless you can ID them as beneficial (no such puppy, IMO) they should be removed.

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No, it won't actually hurt the pests either, it just irritates them till the water goes flat.

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They should survive indefinitely, albeit they will be madder than hell. I personally would remove all species from the carbonated water between each rock dunking. Simply to prevent any mantis or crabs from trying to escape the fizzing by jumping in the next rock.
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That's what I was thinking. So, you're not a crab fan?

The pistols, I was more concerned about the noise. This tank is in my bedroom.

Oh yeah, and I was kind of serious about what kind of carbonated water, or does it matter.
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Oops, meant to answer that question, plain carbonated water, no flavoring, whatever is cheapest.

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Oh yeah, they wopuldn't be in my tank if they were anywhere near the bedroom

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That's what I was thinking. So, you're not a crab fan?
I like their legs and claws on my plate, with some lemon and melted butter
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The pistols, I was more concerned about the noise. This tank is in my bedroom.



Oh yeah, they wopuldn't be in my tank if they were anywhere near the bedroom
Even in the livingroom they still wake me up.. I am soo annoyed with the noise I wish i would have dipped the rock.. Well too late now.. lol

You will notice many many Red Emerald crabs and Anemone crabs as well.. There was soo many crabs in the LR is was unbelievable.. I got most of them out of my tank now lol... Mantis trap helped a bit.. I am mainly glad that all the Mantis are gone.. BTW i have found whelks in the LR too so Id remove them as well...

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What is it that the crabs do that is so damaging?

Also, I'm searching the web for info on whelks, but to no avail as of yet.

How did you dispose of the crabs and mantis shrimp?
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