Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater Fish Only & FOWLR
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 12-15-2008, 05:20 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 60
suggestions for first fish

Hello again yall

Refresher I am running a 30 glln with LR only. I do not have the high out put lights on. sooooo, that being said. I am looking to add my first fish.
I have so far in there
8 nassa snails
1 astraea snail
6 crabs

I am also looking at adding a peppermint shrimp and/ or an emerald crab? and a chocolate chip starfish....would these do ok n with fish? The lady at the store assured me it would be ok but a second oppinion would be nice. She did also mention the starfish will eat the crab if they are not fast enough.

Also any suggestion for any other of these types of things would be welcome also. Thank you again....
__________________

__________________
aquarius75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 05:25 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 60
Forgot to ask how many habitants/ fish would a person suggest for this size tank?
__________________

__________________
aquarius75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 05:44 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
bawel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West LA, CA
Posts: 423
Send a message via MSN to bawel Send a message via Skype™ to bawel
I would suggest a hardy fish to try the water, I think a damsel would be a good start, but it depends on what kind of fishes you like. I've heard about choc chip starfish not reef-safe, but not sure about eating the crabs. Has your tank fully cycled yet?
__________________
Jenny-BaweL
~Reef Tank~
28GL BF, Hydor Koralia Nano PH, AquaClear 50 with LRR, 24" Nova Extreme T5HO, 20Lbs LS and 35Lbs LR
bawel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 05:53 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 60
Hi Bawel,

I took water samples in Friday to the store for testing. They said the salt was right on and to give over the weekend for the rest to come down. I plan on going tomorrow so that will give it another three days.

If all good then I was going to get something new, just wasnt sure what all I could get or how many. I was thinking to add one of the fish and one of the other mentioned critters. I dont want to over due it and stress everything out.

So far have only lost two snails n they were history by the time I got them home.

Though I had a scare today as I saw what looked like a hemit crab laying dead out of his shell, only to my suprise I still had six live crabs! LOL I was just introduced to the activity of molting. WHEW!! :p
__________________
aquarius75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:16 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
bawel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West LA, CA
Posts: 423
Send a message via MSN to bawel Send a message via Skype™ to bawel
Hi aquarius,

You should get yourself a saltwater master kit for just basic testing so you can tell if the water is ready to be put anything. Yes, you don't want to overstock nor putting anymore when the tank is not fully cycled. I'm just afraid that you put those snails in when you're not supposed to yet.

Here is the article about cycling your tank.
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/articl...ank/Page1.html

Do you have a fully cured LR or uncured? Usually there's a saying 1 livestock per 5 gallon, but I'm not sure. It also depends on the sizes that it would grow too. Please check www.liveaquaria.com where they have recommended beginner saltwater fishes.
__________________
Jenny-BaweL
~Reef Tank~
28GL BF, Hydor Koralia Nano PH, AquaClear 50 with LRR, 24" Nova Extreme T5HO, 20Lbs LS and 35Lbs LR
bawel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:27 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 60
HI again.
Yea I was afraid of that also especially after reading that article. I was going with what the lady at the store was telling me to do, which happened before I read the article, so therefore bought my new SW family. I am praying they make it through n so far have done very well. The lady at the store said she thought my tank had already spiked n was now very close to settling to where it should be. So we shall see, I guess.
I am picking up that master test also as I live about 50 miles from this store.

So on a happy note praying for the best n hoping to add a new member soon. Do you have any suggestions on how many habitants can be in a 30 glln? I dont want it over crowded as I have seen some that way and its not really to my liking, but I do not want it barren either.

Oh also I found my first little worms this morning n some very tiny baby snails. Though I have no idea what kind as they are very small. I am hoping that is all positive sign of success!!
__________________
aquarius75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:39 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
bawel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West LA, CA
Posts: 423
Send a message via MSN to bawel Send a message via Skype™ to bawel
Hey there,

I don't know about the worms and baby snails, you think your snails are mating already? :P

In any case, a master test kit will be useful as you don't have to bring to your LFS to check the water, as soon as ammonia and nitrite is 0, you should do PWC.

As for inhabitants, I think you can have at the most 4-5 fishes, but those are in the small growing scale, which means, I think they shouldn't grow more than 2-3 inches. Also, don't add the fishes too fast, after the first fish, you can start adding the second one in 2 weeks time.

Maybe some experts here can chime in to be sure of how many and what's the time lapse between the new fishes as I'm also a newbie and I just started putting a clown fish as my first one.
__________________
Jenny-BaweL
~Reef Tank~
28GL BF, Hydor Koralia Nano PH, AquaClear 50 with LRR, 24" Nova Extreme T5HO, 20Lbs LS and 35Lbs LR
bawel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:46 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 60
Well wouldnt that be something if they were already starting familys!! LOL
Not sure I did put in LV cured rock n live sand so could be from that also. I was just so shocked to see them in there.

So much to know n I am one of those that has to DO IT RIGHT!!! Looks like a long road ahead...........I am so appreciative for your advice....thank you very much......congrats and good luck with your also.
__________________
aquarius75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:52 PM   #9
SW REEF 18+ YEARS
Community Admin
 
melosu58's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 38,249
It`s really hard to say how many. It will vary by the size of the fish and if they are a messy eater. Basically it depends on the bioload that your fish will put on the tank.
__________________

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

You can view many of my fish and corals in my photo albums in my profile.

View my tank


AA Community Rules|AA TOS

Forums 101 - posting, accounts, basics
melosu58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:57 PM   #10
AA Team Emeritus
 
Tank2379's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chicago,IL
Posts: 2,890
Send a message via MSN to Tank2379 Send a message via Yahoo to Tank2379
Quote:
Originally Posted by aquarius75 View Post
Hello again yall

Refresher I am running a 30 glln with LR only. I do not have the high out put lights on. sooooo, that being said. I am looking to add my first fish.
I have so far in there
8 nassa snails
1 astraea snail
6 crabs

I am also looking at adding a peppermint shrimp and/ or an emerald crab? and a chocolate chip starfish....would these do ok n with fish? The lady at the store assured me it would be ok but a second oppinion would be nice. She did also mention the starfish will eat the crab if they are not fast enough.

Also any suggestion for any other of these types of things would be welcome also. Thank you again....
IMO.I would recommend just going with 2 Clown fish I would skip the Chocolate Starfish and Emerald crab, I would also suggest getting ride of the crabs as well and just stick with Turbo Snails.
__________________

Tank2379 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
first fish, suggestions

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Want some more fish, need suggestions TKEON230 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 6 11-30-2008 04:15 PM
Need new Fish Suggestions SuperWade2 Saltwater Fish Only & FOWLR 7 11-17-2007 08:09 PM
need 1-2 more fish- suggestions? Elle2 Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 5 06-15-2006 11:52 PM
Fish suggestions Umpa Lumpa Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 5 05-02-2005 10:25 AM
Almost ready to add fish. Beginner fish suggestions? runway1 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 5 01-19-2005 11:54 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.