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Old 10-07-2007, 11:05 PM   #1
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Trouble with Turbo Snails

I have an issue with keeping Turbo snails , I cant get them past the quarantine tank, after my tank cycled , I added a clown fish and a chromis, I also have a chocolate chip star fish, several blue legged hermits , two scarlett hermits. My first fish was the o. clown, at which time I also bought two turbo snails , I used two separate quarantine tanks , one for the clown and one for the snails , the snails lived for three weeks in th q. tank one died. (drip method for acclimation) , after another week, I introduced the snail to my 55 gallon tank, it died a week later, I have since tried 5 other turbos from different stores , all die. My water parameters are fine . There is a great lfs in the DC area , they actually sent someone to my home to take a look and he too was baffled, they tested my water for all sorts of minerals etc. and found nothing. I know freshwater is different , but my freshwater snails in my freshwater tank have been alive and kicking for two years, so what the heck is up with the turbos? Hermits are not eating them , when they die they are either in the quarantine tank or the die a week to two weeks in the big tank, I literally watched one fall of a rock on not move again.

The only thing I possibly come up with is water temperature, we have central air conditioning and we turn it off when we are not home. I noticed (why it took me so long to figure it out is beyond me) that when I get home from work the water temp is around 82 and when I go to bed after the air has been on it drops , I found it at 72 the other day. I have been watching it close for a week now , would water temp kill my snails?

Any information would be great. As I said everything else is doing very well.
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A temperature swing of 10 degrees is pretty drastic, for anything. I'm guessing you don't have a heater in the tank? If so, set it higher so there isn't such a major swing.

The other possibility, which is why I don't quarantine my snails, is that there isn't enough food in the QT for them.
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Why QT snails or crabs.??/?


I never have Problems with them

That pet place in LAncaster pa just says throw them in
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I agree with both things Kurt mentioned. 10 degree swing in temp in only a few hrs is unacceptable and very stressful on everything in your tank and unless your qt has live rock with some algae, being in there 3 weeks with no food they can starve to death.
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I simply drip acclimate my inverts (at least two hours) and then add them to my tank, no QT.
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ok I had no clues I didnt have to quarantine my inverts ! Now I know, however , that does not explain the two that died in my tank however, I am going with the temp. change due to ac , I do have a heater but the airconditioner tends to even mess with that, I took the lid off of my tank when I had the lid on I had no temp issues it stayed really steady, should I put the lid back on? Since I have been following it closely the temp has not changed drastically so I am hoping thats my issue , I am a little freaked going to get another snail tomorrow , I am afraid I am sending it to its death............. we will see
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Keep the lid off and get a bigger, better heater. Having a lid on can adversly affect your pH.
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Yeah i Dont have a Lid. And i dont have any problems yet.. that is.
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Re: Trouble with Turbo Snails

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would water temp kill my snails?
No but temperature swings will definitely do it. Time to get the heater going.
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...I do have a heater but the airconditioner tends to even mess with that, I took the lid off of my tank when I had the lid on I had no temp issues it stayed really steady, should I put the lid back on? ...
I'm a little confused - so with the tank lid off, and the heater plugged in and set to something around 82 degrees (I'm guessing since that seems to be your high temp), when the a/c kicks in the heater can't keep up and the tank drops temp that fast?

Looks like you have a 200W heater? Seems like that should keep up with the room cooling by 10 degrees when the a/c kicks on - it's not like that big heat sink of 82 degree water is going to drop temp as fast as the air temp in the room.

Do you have a a/c duct pointing right at the top of the tank? Seems like that's the only way the a/c could mess things up.
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