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Old 04-10-2014, 09:07 PM   #11
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No. Not unless it's way low, like 1.016, and corals aren't going to be happy in that environment. Some stores keep a low SG in their fish systems to keep ich from surfacing. It's not a cure by any means, because as soon as you bring said fish home and put it in your water, blamo! Ich everywhere.

Okay thanks for all the info! I'm not planning to have any corals soon (still working on keeping fish &#128541
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Keeping your system as close to your livestock's natural habitat as possible is the very best thing you can do to keep them alive and happy.
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No. Not unless it's way low, like 1.016, and corals aren't going to be happy in that environment. Some stores keep a low SG in their fish systems to keep ich from surfacing. It's not a cure by any means, because as soon as you bring said fish home and put it in your water, blamo! Ich everywhere.
Hello sir, this is interesting. I'm familiar with hypo/hyper salinity techniques.
You may know I'm on my way to my first reef, the Lfs has been questioned about its fish stock and they employ the hypo technique.

Despite all of my questions they never mentioned this!
Is the cure "heat method" a better solution?
I've dealt with ich before, I medicated, this was with freshwater fish though.
I understand the copper situation with coral and some fish.
I have not used the heat method.

(Edit I realise the marine fish are less adaptable to change such as temp)
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There is no heat method. Thats for freshwater, heat will not kill saltwater ich. Also never ever use copper or hypo on a tank that contains coral or inverts the copper is deadly. Only do treatment in a qt never in the dt.
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[QUOTE=tonedogz;2912789]There is no heat method. (Cheers)
Thats for freshwater, heat will not kill saltwater ich.

Also never ever use copper or hypo on a tank that contains coral or inverts the copper is deadly. Only do treatment in a qt never in the dt.

Yes I understand this, I mentioned the copper thing. I've read plenty (like almost a decades worth of above average reading) but I kind of got sidetracked with my freshwater systems.

So meds is the only way to eradicate marine ich?

I thought maybe it wouldn't reproduce in hypo saline conditions? Does it just slow it down as in freshwater ich (low temps slow cycle)

(Cheers for that reply, I haven't made the jump into marine yet but I've kept brackish fish for 6-7 years so I understand a lot of the techniques involved in water keeping) all I want now is a reef and I'll be happy!
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There is no heat method. (Cheers)
Thats for freshwater, heat will not kill saltwater ich.

Also never ever use copper or hypo on a tank that contains coral or inverts the copper is deadly. Only do treatment in a qt never in the dt.

Yes I understand this, I mentioned the copper thing. I've read plenty (like almost a decades worth of above average reading) but I kind of got sidetracked with my freshwater systems.

So meds is the only way to eradicate marine ich?
Hypo will kill ich at the proper temp.
I thought maybe it wouldn't reproduce in hypo saline conditions? Does it just slow it down as in freshwater ich (low temps slow cycle)
Hypo will kill ich at the proper salinity.Low temps don't do anything and the only med. that will work is copper
(Cheers for that reply, I haven't made the jump into marine yet but I've kept brackish fish for 6-7 years so I understand a lot of the techniques involved in water keeping) all I want now is a reef and I'll be happy!
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hypo will kill ich at the proper salinity. Low temp. doesn't do anything. As far as meds. only copper will kill the ich
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Cheers.

So what's the ideal salinity to eradicate marine piscinoodinium and at what temp?
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So what's the ideal salinity to eradicate marine piscinoodinium and at what temp?
First I believe that piscinoodinium is freshwater velvet second hypo doen't have any effect on marine velet (amyloodinium)
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First I believe that piscinoodinium is freshwater velvet second hypo doen't have any effect on marine velet (amyloodinium)
You are quite correct. My error. It is velvet.

So, what's the answer? You seem to have the knowledge I seek.
What is the correct SG/T for treatment of cryptocaryon irritans.

My current understanding is 8 weeks will cure the display tank providing it is free from fish. This is similar to fresh water ich, break the cycle.

What about the fish? Obviously medication free treatment is better for everyone.
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