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Old 01-17-2012, 04:53 PM   #191
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is 80 a safe temp for bettas? Dancer is himself when his temp is at 76-78 but when his water reaches 80 hes a showoff lol and makes bubble nests like crazy and sometimes he will rest next to the heater... he seems to be happier if the temp is at 80. i just dont want it too hot and burn him...
80 is the recommended temp for bettas.
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:59 PM   #192
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ive always heard72-82 so i didnt know what was best...
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:01 PM   #193
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ive always heard72-82 so i didnt know what was best...
If he is happy at 80 keep it at that
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:42 PM   #194
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If he is happy at 80 keep it at that
Yup. My bettas are always happiest at 80.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:38 PM   #195
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ive always heard72-82 so i didnt know what was best...
I've been reading this post from the beginning and frankly, I've seen a few responses that really raise my eyebrow. I had to stop reading and set the record straight.
I've been breeding Bettas since 1965 both as a hobbyist and a commercial breeder and I am still breeding some today. Today's Bettas are not the same as yesteryears even tho they are from the same gene pool however, their requirements and history are still the same.
Here's what you need to know:
Bettas, in their wild form, came from shallow water/ rice patties in Asia. They belong to a group of fish called Anabantoids. They evolved to breath air because where they came from, oxygen levels in the water are low. (The same applies for some of the huge fish from South America.) Today's Bettas still breath that way because that's what the fish is, an AIR BREATHER. Gouramis are anabantids as well and can be kept in unairated tanks as well.
Tank size: Doesn't matter!!! I've raised Bettas in Baby food jars. Water quality matters most.
Temperature: while Bettas can be kept in a multitude of temperature ranges, they come from warm humid areas and will do best when that scenario is duplicated. (I have nests made at 76 degrees up to 85 /90 degrees but fish living 65 degrees.) The nice part about Bettas is that if you look and listen, they tell you when they are not happy. A happy betta will not be staying in a corner with clamped fins and not eating. If yours is doing any of those things, something's wrong. I have my Bettas in 4 different set ups depending on the situation. Some are in jars, some in filtered tanks, some in unfiltered tanks and some in a flow through system. Different ways for different situations. The most important thing you must do is keep them in cleaner water. If you are feeding 2x per day, you'll need to change the water about every other day if you don't have a good biological filter or chemical filter. For my jars, I make up water in advance and keep it in the same area as the fish to age. That's what I use to change water. Whether you're using well water or tap water, let the water age for a day while the temps get the same. Use 1/2 teaspoon of non iodized salt per 1 gallon of water and treat (if necessary) with water conditioners. (I only use salt in my well water.) I always have water ready to do water changes and so should you.

Food: Bettas are insectivors/ meat eaters. Their diet should be made up of mostly meat products. Betta Pellets, Freeze Dried Worms, even Tropical Fish Flake foods are all fine if your fish is eating them. If they go uneaten, STOP FEEDING it and switch to another choice. In my early days, Bettas NEVER would eat flake food. Now, I raise most of mine on it. If it has the right ingredients, the fish will eat it.

Disease: The 2 main diseases the fish suffer from are fungus, which they get mostly when they are too cold and bacterial infections which they get when the water is too dirty. Remedies are simple: if you see fungus, raise the temp and use a fungicide. If the fins are bleeding or deteriorating, change the water and treat with an antibiotic. Using the salt will help prevent most other Betta problems.
(in the case of your Betta with the spot on his head, if the spot was fuzzy, it is a fungus infection. Just doing water changes won't cure that. If it was just a discloration, water quality might have been the issue so raising the temp and changing the water would be the answer.)

Please note, I said before that the fish need cleaner water. The problem of doing too many water changes is that fish kept in an almost sterile environment succomb to diseases much more rapidly than those kept in slightly dirtier environments. You have to act accordingly.

Finally, Bettas are one of the easiest fish to take care of. Don't over do anything and you should be succesful.
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I must be doing something right cause hes in his 2 gal container now and at 80 degrees he has much more room to swim around in that a tiny cup even his one gal he was in and hes not getting agitated like he was in the smaller containers which says to me he needed more space to move around in. since bringing him home and dealing with the fin rot and fin loss he had and the discoloration on his head hes twice the size he was and his fins have completely grown back and he looks healthier and his color looks better...

that tells me that im taking care of him pretty good and keeping up with his water changes and hes an overall happy healthy betta...
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getting dancers new tank tomorrow and lookin forward to setting it up and getting the cycling started...
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I must be doing something right cause hes in his 2 gal container now and at 80 degrees he has much more room to swim around in that a tiny cup even his one gal he was in and hes not getting agitated like he was in the smaller containers which says to me he needed more space to move around in. since bringing him home and dealing with the fin rot and fin loss he had and the discoloration on his head hes twice the size he was and his fins have completely grown back and he looks healthier and his color looks better...

that tells me that im taking care of him pretty good and keeping up with his water changes and hes an overall happy healthy betta...
Sounds like it to me too.
The thing with all fish is that you must adapt your habits to the fish's needs. You can create more stability with more water volume. That doesn't mean that a smaller water volume can't be stable. It's just done differently.
As I said before, the fish will tell you when something is wrong. You just have to listen
Best of luck...
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getting dancers new tank tomorrow and lookin forward to setting it up and getting the cycling started...
Yay! How exciting! Make sure you post pics when it's all set up.
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Yay! How exciting! Make sure you post pics when it's all set up.
I will hannah will be at school tomorrow so that will also make it easier...
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