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Old 03-25-2013, 01:24 AM   #11
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Anyways, a brand new filter in brand new water isn't doing anything unless you have filter media out of an established tank ( running beneficial bacteria thru). Water conditioner is just taking out chlorine/heavy metals out of your tap water. I would definitely get a test kit even if it's the strips to give you ballpark readings.
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Your fish will get stressed and you might lose a couple ( maybe none) when ammonia levels peak, but not till they drop you will want to do a water change as this will just prolong the cycling process. Tho I have heard of ppl doing 5-10% water changes I have heard don't mess with it till it's complete.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:30 AM   #13
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Anyways, a brand new filter in brand new water isn't doing anything unless you have filter media out of an established tank ( running beneficial bacteria thru). Water conditioner is just taking out chlorine/heavy metals out of your tap water. I would definitely get a test kit even if it's the strips to give you ballpark readings.
Ooh ok, so what should I do until my tank is "established"? And what exactly is an "established tank"??
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:32 AM   #14
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Your fish will get stressed and you might lose a couple ( maybe none) when ammonia levels peak, but not till they drop you will want to do a water change as this will just prolong the cycling process. Tho I have heard of ppl doing 5-10% water changes I have heard don't mess with it till it's complete.
Hmm, ok.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:39 AM   #15
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Ooh ok, so what should I do until my tank is "established"? And what exactly is an "established tank"??
First off, Petsmart employees know nothing about aquariums.
Now to your question. An established tank is a tank that will turn ammonia into nitrites and nitrites into nitrates. Bacteria living in your filter does this. Ammonia and nitrites are very poisonous to fish. Nitrates are less toxic. It can take anywhere from 2 weeks to cycle, to my tank taking 5 months.
While your tank is establishing you need to constantly check water parameters with test kits (I highly reccomend API liquid test kit. 18$ on amazon, and will last you years). If ur ammonia or nitrites go above .25, do a waterchange. When ur nitrites and ammonia are 0, with nitrates present, ur cycled. Anymore questions feel free to ask.

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You should get a test kit. you definitely need to be monitoring your levels more now than a month from now. An established tank is just a tank with enough beneficial bacteria to handle the bio load your inhabitants are putting on it. (there helping break down the bad stuff). Basically all the food not getting eaten, which overfeeding is BAD, all the fish waste turns to poison. Good bacteria builds up in your filter and your gravel and breaks it down. And when you don't have enough it accumulates and poisons your water.
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First off, Petsmart employees know nothing about aquariums.
Now to your question. An established tank is a tank that will turn ammonia into nitrites and nitrites into nitrates. Bacteria living in your filter does this. Ammonia and nitrites are very poisonous to fish. Nitrates are less toxic. It can take anywhere from 2 weeks to cycle, to my tank taking 5 months.
While your tank is establishing you need to constantly check water parameters with test kits (I highly reccomend API liquid test kit. 18$ on amazon, and will last you years). If ur ammonia or nitrites go above .25, do a waterchange. When ur nitrites and ammonia are 0, with nitrates present, ur cycled. Anymore questions feel free to ask.

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Haha, yah that. I'm the slowest typer ever
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Haha, yah that. I'm the slowest typer ever
I'm on an iPhone keyboard to! Of course I'm a programmer so I need to be a fast typer.
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I'm on an iPhone keyboard to! Of course I'm a programmer so I need to be a fast typer.
Indeed you have cat like typing skills I peck, it took me like 4 min to type this, haha
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You should get a test kit. you definitely need to be monitoring your levels more now than a month from now. An established tank is just a tank with enough beneficial bacteria to handle the bio load your inhabitants are putting on it. (there helping break down the bad stuff). Basically all the food not getting eaten, which overfeeding is BAD, all the fish waste turns to poison. Good bacteria builds up in your filter and your gravel and breaks it down. And when you don't have enough it accumulates and poisons your water.
Ooh ok! I see!
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