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Old 11-08-2013, 01:48 AM   #11
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Water changes are done every 2-3 weeks depending on the look of it and its about a 20% water change. The filter has sponge and carbon media. There are a few baby size algae eaters that are cleaning the tanks which we will remove once they get too big.
That's not enough for a heavily stocked tank like that. You should be doing weekly water changes in the 30% range.

I looked at your stock list. WAY too many fish, and way too many KINDS of fish. Aquariums look and run better when you keep it to 4 or 5 species at the most.

You really ought to get rid of most of those fish. Maybe start over with a more reasonable list that people here could suggest for you. Your fish are packed so tight they keep having to get out of eachother's way. That's what I saw in the video and it's just no good. You can't run a tank like that.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:58 AM   #12
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I see what you're saying but the water is clear and the ph is always spot on and no fish have died yet and we've had them for 6 months now and they have grown quite a bit. Most of them wont get bigger than 5-10 cm except the goldfish plus we have three tanks if we need to swap them around. They all seem happy at the moment with their current environment. Have a look at my profile. I tend to them quite a bit a make sure they are all healthy. I do have a question about my Pleco, he is in a 70ltr tank and is about 17cm long. What size can he get to in that tank before i have to move him. Attached photo.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:03 AM   #13
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And the fish were all in each others way coz i came up to the tank and they thought i was going to feed them. They have plenty of room. They would've all died by now if the conditions weren't good enough. We've studied their behaviour and they are all normal together.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:19 AM   #14
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And the fish were all in each others way coz i came up to the tank and they thought i was going to feed them. They have plenty of room. They would've all died by now if the conditions weren't good enough. We've studied their behaviour and they are all normal together.
You don't want to listen to advice?

http://s110.photobucket.com/user/111..._4698.mp4.html

This is what happy angels look like. Nobody's bothering them. Nobody's getting in their way. I don't know what you consider "enough" room, but your fish don't have it.

Fish do respond to their environment. The better the water conditions, the better the fish and the better your experience as a fishkeeper. I had those angels virtually alone in a 55gal with water changes every 3 days using remineralized ph/gh/kh balanced water I made myself. They spawned every 7 days. Constantly. For years. That's an extreme, overkill example, but you get my point. Obviously you can keep angels with other fish, it just has to be within reason.

There should have been, for example, in your tank, an entire top right or left corner of the tank with a floating plant devoted to the (one) male gourami so he could make a bubble nest. There should be a broad leafed plant for the Angels to spawn on, and room for them to do it. But you don't want to listen to me so that's all I'll say.

One more thing- I notice you're trying to grow lots of different plants without CO2. You might want to try plants that do well in no co2 low light conditions like anubias and java fern. you'll have better luck with long term plant growth and wellbeing.
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There are amazon plants in there that u cant see in the back etc etc i wont go into it they are alive and happy and each fish has a hiding place. If you saw the tank live non stop like i do you would see. Its not like any other typical tank. It works perfectly. Thanks for the advice.
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There are amazon plants in there that u cant see in the back etc etc i wont go into it they are alive and happy and each fish has a hiding place. If you saw the tank live non stop like i do you would see. Its not like any other typical tank. It works perfectly. Thanks for the advice.
Will you at least increase water changes to once a week? I didn't see the sword plant. Too many fish to look at.
Have you tested your Nitrates? I bet they're off the chart due to the stock level and infrequent water changes. I'm just trying to help your fish out.

Also about your pleco in the 70 ltr tank. That's under 20 gallons. The pleco is over 6 inches. It's already high time to move him. If you had more space in your bigger tank I'd say put him in there but there's no room at that inn.
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Ive done this all before. When i first got my tank we were doing regular changes and vacuuming weekly but we've worked out that fortnightly is enough coz all the filters get cleaned about every 3-4days.
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We've also tested the nitrates and its all normal. Don't know what else to say. They are all doing great in there for 6 months now. We have Apple snails in the tank too which eat a lot of the fish droppings that cause the nitrates and the snail droppings aren't harmful to the tank at all.
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Ive done this all before. When i first got my tank we were doing regular changes and vacuuming weekly but we've worked out that fortnightly is enough coz all the filters get cleaned about every 3-4days.
You clean your filters every 3-4 DAYS??? Dude you should be cleaning your filters once every other (of your) water changes, (once a month I mean) and even then, only lightly rinsing about 1/3 of the media in tank water in a bucket. Otherwise you lose too much beneficial bacteria. If you have CANISTER filters, once every 3-6 months for cleaning.

Honestly dude. The more I hear...

Test your nitrates. Go get a nitrate kit, test your nitrates, come back and tell us what they are. I'm certain they'll be too high.

Doesn't it stand to reason that if I've been doing this for 12 years and I worked in a pet shop with a very high end aquarium section, I'm going to know more than you, and you should listen to my advice? You say things are fine the way you're doing them, but they're not. Sorry.

If you had a very light stock list, you could do a water change every 2 weeks or so, but you have a ridiculously highly stocked tank. If I had that many fish in that tank I'd be changing 30% every 3 days.
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I know about filter bacteria, i dont wash out the filters like a maniac. I use the tank water as well to wash the media's.
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