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Old 08-26-2012, 10:17 AM   #11
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Thanks Nigel. Yeah, about the pleco... I hear they need at least a 55 gallon when they get bigger? But this being a 29 gallon, maybe I will need one to help keep things smooth. Course the pleco will probably be one of the last things added. I am prepared to rehome it when it gets too big. I have a friend with a koi pond that would like it, or someone else suggested that I sell it back to the fish store..
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:43 AM   #12
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Thanks Nigel. Yeah, about the pleco... I hear they need at least a 55 gallon when they get bigger? But this being a 29 gallon, maybe I will need one to help keep things smooth. Course the pleco will probably be one of the last things added. I am prepared to rehome it when it gets too big. I have a friend with a koi pond that would like it, or someone else suggested that I sell it back to the fish store..
Sorry southern girl if you felt I was being rude when I replied that the fish were being tortured I was being rude I was just sayn the truth I would want the truth wounding you
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:30 PM   #13
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Some may disagree on the word torture.. That is rather harsh wouldn;t you think? Anyway
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:46 PM   #14
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Welcome to the forum southerngirl. You are correct, fish-in cycling is the old school method, and it's one that is still used by most people.

It can be done safely and easily with no harm done to any of the fish. It's the only cycling that I do. Since it can be just as easy as fishless I find fishless cycling to be completely pointless. If done correctly there are no 'constant massive water changes' and the like, the only time that happens is when someone goes into it with a heavy stockload or misinformation on how the process works.

Unfortunately there are people out there that think their way is the only way, but most know better.

My apologies on behalf of the forum posters for such a rude welcome, we are glad to have you here and hope you stick around.
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+1 with proper care fish in is fine and for the hostility in the room... Please don't let this effect your opinion on this forum just yet. Many of the members responding in this thread are almost as new to it as you which I apologize for the direction this thread took. Try opening a new thread for getting started or a build thread and I promise many knowledgeable, welcoming, people will kindly help you along... And welcome to AA
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #16
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Thank you for the kind responses, I was beginning to wonder If I had chose the wrong forum to join. I am not leaving yet, I just might need some major help as this goes along. I do want to do everything right and Plan to do my very best through all this. I had no idea that this forum even existed... Yes, I have a thread in the getting started section, that I hope to keep updated over the next few months.
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:06 PM   #17
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Thanks Nigel. Yeah, about the pleco... I hear they need at least a 55 gallon when they get bigger? But this being a 29 gallon, maybe I will need one to help keep things smooth. Course the pleco will probably be one of the last things added. I am prepared to rehome it when it gets too big. I have a friend with a koi pond that would like it, or someone else suggested that I sell it back to the fish store..
There are some species of pleco that can grow to well over a foot long. This are usually the "Common pleco" you'll see at the fish store. You want to stay away from those. There are a few species however that stay relatively smaller (5-6 inches) that could go quite well in your tank. Look up the Clown pleco, bristlenose pleco, and the butterfly pleco.

Planetcatfish.com has some really good information on there about pleco's so you could go check that out as well
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If you want a fish that you are going to see during the day, the clown pleco isn't the way to go. We have one, we thought it was neat looking and bought him. He's always hiding, only comes out at night. We're looking into setting up a moonlight, but just tossing out a word of advice. Definitely research the plecos before you buy them.
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If you want a fish that you are going to see during the day, the clown pleco isn't the way to go. We have one, we thought it was neat looking and bought him. He's always hiding, only comes out at night. We're looking into setting up a moonlight, but just tossing out a word of advice. Definitely research the plecos before you buy them.
Good point. I had a clown and a butterfly pleco that came out almost only at night (in 2 different tanks). My bushynose stays out all the time and she's lovely.
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Very cool. I googled pictures of the different plecos mentioned and I like them. I did not know there were so many kinds. Looks like I will have some research to do to figure out which one I want.
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