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Old 10-16-2014, 02:44 AM   #1
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Hi guys.

I'm new to the whole aquarium scene and I ran into this forum and thought it be a great place to start. Anyways so I have 2 tanks. A 130L and 40L

40L
10 neon tetra
1 Siamese fighting fish
2 molly
-will add 1 bottom dweller soon

130L
3 corydora panda
1 Otocinclus
7 phantom tetra
-will add
2 Cucoo catfish
2 Bala shark/silver shark
x Dwarf gourami
x Red tailed black shark (possibly depending on if they are okay with pandas)

How do those tank list sound to you guys. Let me know what you think or any personal experiences with any of these fish and their personalities.

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Old 10-16-2014, 06:57 AM   #2
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Ok so you have a 40ltr = 10.5g

You are way overstocked !! Check AqAdvisor to help with stocking. Do not buy more fish. You need to return or rehome most of them.

You can do 1 Betta plus Ghost Shrimp or a Snail
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You can keep 5 Neons and not much else.

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130ltr = 34g
Your current stock is ok and you could move your Mollies to this tank and your Neons.

Do Not add Bala Sharks !! They get 10-12" and need a much bigger tank.

If these are new tanks, don't buy anymore fish. Adding too many fish too fast will crash your tanks.

Test your water with an API Master Test kit.

Do large weekly water changes or sooner if needed.

How long have your tanks been up ?

Sorry for the bad news on the 40 ltr. But if you don't reduce the stock , your fish will start to die. Mollies are semi-aggressive in my opinion. They can be major bullies around food.

Please research the fish you have and ask if you need our help before buying any more.

Store employees will often say anything to make a sale. Not all of them.

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Cories and Otos need to be in groups. Fill out your schools once your tanks are stable. FYI I never put Otos in new tanks. They need biofilm as they are wild caught and usually will not eat packaged food. Single Otos usually waste away. 😢

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I see. Thanks so much. I get different information from the fish stores. They said my betta and 10 neons are okay in the 40L tank

So oto needs to be in schools and lives off natural bio stuff? Do they not eat algae wafers?

Also I love my cory and oto. How many should I have of each for them to school?


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These tanks are not cycled. Fish store said if you let the filter run (new filter no seeds) for a week it will be cycled. So I got the fish 2 weeks after to be safe.

I do 25% water changes every 5 days and use the Api master test kit to monitor the water quality.


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It's very hard to get otos to take prepared food. I had some and they died within days because there wasn't enough food. A round oto is a happy oto. If I were you, id let some smooth river rocks stay in a bowl of water in the sun for a while. Have several and when they get algae covered out them in the tank. As soon as one is clean take it out and add another. You will need a lot of these thought but it's probably the best way. Another way to get them on prepared foods would be to fill a 2.5 or so and let it sit in the sun until it is full of algae. Add your oto and a sponge filter. As they eat through the algae put some wafers and fresh veggies in the tank. Eventually they may take some but you should probably still supplement real algae.


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I see. Thanks so much. I get different information from the fish stores. They said my betta and 10 neons are okay in the 40L tank

So oto needs to be in schools and lives off natural bio stuff? Do they not eat algae wafers?

Also I love my cory and oto. How many should I have of each for them to school?


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I'm sorry you were given bad advice. IF your larger tank has room, you can eventually have 5-6 Otos and 5-6 Cories.

What species of Cory do you have ?

6 or more is ideal but you'll need to factor in all your fish.

Besides growing Algae on smooth rocks, if you can get it Repashy makes an awesome gel diet. It comes dry and you add the water and microwave. My Otos LOVED it 🐳🐳

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Agreed that the 40L is overstocked, and agree about the mollies.

There are a number of nano fish that you can keep in your 40L - much more than just a betta or a few neons. Personally, I don't think it's right to sacrifice school size in order to fit fish into a tank and for that reason I think you should stock fish that top out at an inch or less. A large group (10+) of ember tetras, chili rasboras, or celestial pearl danios would do very well in a tank that size. There are other nano fish options as well.
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I'm sorry you were given bad advice. IF your larger tank has room, you can eventually have 5-6 Otos and 5-6 Cories.

What species of Cory do you have ?

6 or more is ideal but you'll need to factor in all your fish.

Besides growing Algae on smooth rocks, if you can get it Repashy makes an awesome gel diet. It comes dry and you add the water and microwave. My Otos LOVED it 🐳🐳

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It's very hard to get otos to take prepared food. I had some and they died within days because there wasn't enough food. A round oto is a happy oto. If I were you, id let some smooth river rocks stay in a bowl of water in the sun for a while. Have several and when they get algae covered out them in the tank. As soon as one is clean take it out and add another. You will need a lot of these thought but it's probably the best way. Another way to get them on prepared foods would be to fill a 2.5 or so and let it sit in the sun until it is full of algae. Add your oto and a sponge filter. As they eat through the algae put some wafers and fresh veggies in the tank. Eventually they may take some but you should probably still supplement real algae.


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The entire tank is smooth gravel so should i just scoop some of those out into a bowl or two and do that? Also do i need anything for the process to start or does algae just grow in the sun on the gravel without anything?
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Get a bunch of decorative river rocks or something similar- your gravel won't help. Algae will just grow.


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