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Old 08-08-2013, 12:50 PM   #21
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Theres only 1 problem with "leave the tank alone unless fish are dying" and that is, fish were allowed suffer and die. While deaths in this hobby are gonna occur, we should at least do our utmost to prevent them.

The ONLY way to prevent them is to test water daily and if the ammonia or nitrite are above 0.25 to do a large water change/add prime to detoxify.

If the nitrite level is through the roof, it will kill them.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:57 PM   #22
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Thanks guys, I agree with you 100% and its been KILLING me to just leave the tank and not even test the water (but I knew that was the only way that I would be able to avoid performing WCs so often)

I am definitely going to do a WC as soon as I get home from work today.. I just hope its not too late for the little Gup..
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:00 PM   #23
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Theres only 1 problem with "leave the tank alone unless fish are dying" and that is, fish were allowed suffer and die. While deaths in this hobby are gonna occur, we should at least do our utmost to prevent them.

The ONLY way to prevent them is to test water daily and if the ammonia or nitrite are above 0.25 to do a large water change/add prime to detoxify.

If the nitrite level is through the roof, it will kill them.
WC , WC, WC.......test daily .
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:05 PM   #24
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Thanks guys, I agree with you 100% and its been KILLING me to just leave the tank and not even test the water (but I knew that was the only way that I would be able to avoid performing WCs so often)

I am definitely going to do a WC as soon as I get home from work today.. I just hope its not too late for the little Gup..
With a fish in cycle you just can't avoid the WC. I know it's a pain, but those guys are your responsibility now and ya gotta do what ya gotta do to give them the best chance of survival. Don't feel guilty either, everyones on a learning curve and just learn from the fish who have died n move on. Hope the other guy makes it too!
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:31 PM   #25
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With a fish in cycle you just can't avoid the WC. I know it's a pain, but those guys are your responsibility now and ya gotta do what ya gotta do to give them the best chance of survival. Don't feel guilty either, everyones on a learning curve and just learn from the fish who have died n move on. Hope the other guy makes it too!
Do yourself a huge favor and only seek counsel from AA, too much bad or improper advice being distributed from LFS. Despite their good intentions, your aquarium and fish will suffer as a result. Keep up with WC's until your levels are 0 and nitrate is between 10-20
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:38 PM   #26
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I agree. The advice some LFS give out is just plain wrong, and dangerous to fish.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:15 PM   #27
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I was very skeptical of what the LFS was telling me to begin with, and the fact that I witnessed my guppy getting sick just put me over the edge..

I will surely be avoiding the LFS for any advice from here out... Way I see it is that they are in business to sell fish, so why not tell people something that would have them keep coming in and purchasing more fish??

Last night when I got home from work, the little gup was still hanging in there, but seemed that the ACs were starting to get vicious and pick at him. I performed a quick WC of the tank, removed the guppy and placed it in an old 1 gal. fish bowl to keep away from the cichlids, is it alright to have the guppy in the bowl with no filter though??

Anyways as I said, the guppy was still alive, but since I put him in the bowl he is still swimming around on its side, almost upside down and staying at the surface. I don't think he will make it much longer, but I couldn't bring myself to get rid of him while its still alive. Poor lil' guy...
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:57 PM   #28
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The guppy is not gonna do well in that 1gal bowl any chance you can give him back to the lfs?
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I didn't think he would, the bowl was just to get him away from the ACs as quickly as possible and this was all I had handy... I am thinking of getting a small maybe 2.5 or 5 gallon tank and setting it up, would be good to have as a quarantine anyways I guess..

If the lil guy is looking better when I get home from work today, I will run out and grab the new tank right away.. I honestly don't think he will make it though.. the ACs nearly nipped off one of his side fins completely and I think that might be why he is floating around the surface on his side...
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Yeah it might be the reason alright. Hope he makes it! *crosses fingers*
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