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Old 02-23-2012, 11:51 AM   #81
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thats about all you can do is try and make him comfortible as you can.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:21 PM   #82
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Sadly Skeeter has passed on. After seeing him this morning I was thinking he wouldn't last much longer. Poor little guy.

And I am totally confused about my levels. I did a 50% water change a few hours ago and I just tested my water.

Ammo: .25ppm
Nitrates: 2.0ppm
Nitrates: 80ppm

Is it because he died? I am going to do a 100% water change. There are no fish in the tank now. The guppy is nowhere to be found. So fishless cycle? What do I do?
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:12 PM   #83
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a fish less cycle you just leave your tank to cycle on its own for about 3 weeks to a month. Leave everything in your filter but clean them. But DONT throw any of your filter stuff away it will have some good bacteria still in it.
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Sorry for your loss Yeah the ammonia spike is from him passing...
To do a fishless cycle:
Go to an ace hardware or similar type store and get janitorial ammonia, it has no additives and is 10% ammonia so a little goes a long way.. dose to 2 or 4 ppm (lower or higher based on weather you plan on lightly or heavily stocking) and keep it dosed that high, don't worry about water changes unless your ph crashes, after its eating through 2 ppm in 24 hrs start checking nitrItes. Keep dosing with ammonia to 2 or 4 ppm, once nitrItes are down to 0, wait 24 hrs for remaining ammonia to be eaten up and do a massive water change (like 95%) and after checking to make sure your nitrAtes are in the acceptable range and you're ready for fish
But be patient, the whole process can take weeks if you start without any seeded material.
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Sorry you lost him.
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So sorry hes gone but hes not suffering any more.
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I'm so sorry for your loss.

Leave the filter alone. Don't even rinse it IMO. Do a 100% water change and you can add your Betta to the tank if you want or continue it as a fishless cycle. You will have to get ammonia in the tank one way or another.
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or buy a few feeder goldfish
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:13 PM   #89
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I'm so sorry for your loss.

Leave the filter alone. Don't even rinse it IMO. Do a 100% water change and you can add your Betta to the tank if you want or continue it as a fishless cycle. You will have to get ammonia in the tank one way or another.
I feel really bad for Skeeter. I wish I would have known how to cycle a tank before I got him. I feel like its my fault he died.

On the other hand, I did a 100% water change and acclimated king Neptune to the water and I just added him into the tank. He is swimming around gracefully checking out all the plants. He looks really pretty in it!

So just so I know I'm doing it right, test for ammonia and nitrates every day and do pwc's as needed until I get 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites for how many days in a row? And what do I do about the nitrates? Just wait and hope my plants start "eating" them?

I want to thank you guys so much for your help and support. I truly do appreciate it!
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or buy a few feeder goldfish
No!! The idea of using goldfish to cycle is outdated and cruel. They shouldn't be treated any different just because they are less likely to die durning a cycle.
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