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Old 12-08-2013, 11:07 AM   #1
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Question New member and getting very confused!!

Hi All, I'm new to this site and it was recommended on a web link.

There are a few things that is really like some advice on.


I used to have a smallish tropical fish tank many moons ago. Then all I did was set up the tank, add plants get some bog wood and hey presto! Leave for a few weeks then add the fish I wanted.


Is never heard of the nitrite cycle let alone whether to do a fish less or fish cycle when setting up the tank. I've never done any chemical testing or adding ammonia and retesting daily. As you can imagine, it's a lot to take in!!!




I've now got a second hand Juwel vision 180 with an additional pond solutions external 2000 pump. I've set it all up and I just need some plants and bog wood to get the basics done.




I would be very grateful for any advice on which route I should take. As you can imagine, I'd like to do all this correctly.


Many thanks


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Old 12-08-2013, 11:14 AM   #2
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Hi All, I'm new to this site and it was recommended on a web link. There are a few things that is really like some advice on. I used to have a smallish tropical fish tank many moons ago. Then all I did was set up the tank, add plants get some bog wood and hey presto! Leave for a few weeks then add the fish I wanted. Is never heard of the nitrite cycle let alone whether to do a fish less or fish cycle when setting up the tank. I've never done any chemical testing or adding ammonia and retesting daily. As you can imagine, it's a lot to take in!!! I've now got a second hand Juwel vision 180 with an additional pond solutions external 2000 pump. I've set it all up and I just need some plants and bog wood to get the basics done. I would be very grateful for any advice on which route I should take. As you can imagine, I'd like to do all this correctly. Many thanks Chloe
Welcome to the thread! This site is very helpful when learning!

If you want a simple but scientifically accurate explanation of the nitrogen cycle search "dr Tim's aquatics: nitrogen cycle." He try's to sell you products that may help the process, but I personally wouldn't buy them (too much money). Just listen to the info, it was really helpful for me.

There are also some great articles and threads on here if you want to learn more. Truth is that there is not a guaranteed agreed upon method to cycling. Everyone has there own opinion.

So do your research and decide which method is best for you and your tank. Happy cycling!
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Welcome to the forum. I've gotten a lot of good advice here and I'm sure you will too. I would advise doing a fish less cycle and getting yourself a good test kit. I use the API freshwater master test kit for my fw setup. It seems to do a good job. Good luck!
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Thank you so much for this. I really appreciate it.

Just a query, how long does it take to get it back to 0 ??
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Hi Thank you so much for this. I really appreciate it. Just a query, how long does it take to get it back to 0 ??
Depending on your method and available products, anywhere from a few days to a few months
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Do you have any mates that have a tank. You could ask them to 'lend' you some media from there filter. Alternatively you could ask your local LFS to give you some gravel from there tanks. Bag it(with water) as if they were selling fish. This can then be placed in a pair of tights and placed in with the bio media in your APS filter. I done this with my 55g a few years ago, along with 10 Zebra Danios and have never had to cycle(from scratch) a tank since......
When you plants, do you mean real or fake??
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Do you have any mates that have a tank. You could ask them to 'lend' you some media from there filter. Alternatively you could ask your local LFS to give you some gravel from there tanks. Bag it(with water) as if they were selling fish. This can then be placed in a pair of tights and placed in with the bio media in your APS filter. I done this with my 55g a few years ago, along with 10 Zebra Danios and have never had to cycle(from scratch) a tank since...... When you plants, do you mean real or fake??


Hi Ian

That's a really good idea. I've got to go to LFS to get my plants. I'll ask if they are willing to do that for me. Would I put it in the large filter I've got to the small one that's integral in the tank.

Do you do the chemical testing? It all seems very complicated ! Much more so than years ago.

I am intending to get real plants. Some floor covered and some tall ones too. I want to make it look pretty life like.

Thanks ever so much for this seems much more straight forward.
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Have you got experience with real plants, aqua ones that is??
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Have you got experience with real plants, aqua ones that is??
Yes from when I had my old tank. When I brought this new tank second hand, the guy gave me lots of things to grow my own. Maybe do this in the future. First I'd just like to keep the ones I get alive!!!

Have you got any advice ??
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Yes from when I had my old tank. When I brought this new tank second hand, the guy gave me lots of things to grow my own. Maybe do this in the future. First I'd just like to keep the ones I get alive!!!

Have you got any advice ??
I'm not experienced enough with plants to give advice. Many people here will though. Regarding the gravel from the LFS. Any decent store will give you this. A good handful will be enough but take as much as you can get. If they refuse, tell them you'll be shopping elsewhere!!. Keep it wet until you add it to your filter. DO NOT RINSE IT. Leave it in the filter for at least a month, longer is better. You WILL need a liquid test kit. API is a good one. You need to test the water daily for the first few weeks, any Ammonia above .25ppm and you need to do a large water change 50%+.
Danio's are a very hardy fish to use during the cycle. Although you will have some BB from the gravel, you will still need to do a cycle but having some BB will shorten it greatly.....
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