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Old 10-05-2013, 05:40 PM   #11
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A word about those bacteria that cycle your tank. They work to speed your cycle but do not make your tank instantly cycled (as you have experienced). I decided to see how it would work in a new marine tank. I put in the bacteria and waited a short time and added an average bio load of fish. I tested water quality twice a day and found the water quality was slower to change; but it did change. I would do a water change of 25% about every 2 days and would add more of the bacteria with each water change. I was able to stabilize water chemistry much quicker than if not using the bacteria. Until your water chemistry is stable you must consider your tank in cycling mode.
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:06 PM   #12
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Pretty sure I pulled a noob. Set up my 50 gal tanks Friday past. Used cycle for the first three days as the label says. Introduced 19 fish by Sunday. Danios, cardinals, lamp eye tetras, a blue gourami, and a red tail shark. They all seem to be doing fine but I don't know what to think of my water chemistry. Ph 6.6-6.8 ammonia 1-2 ppm nitrite 0-0.25 ppm nitrate 10-20 ppm. Hard to diferenciate between some of the colora on the color chart ( api master test kit). My water is also cloudy. Is all this normal? When should I do my first water change? Should I be concerned about my ammonia level? Thinking about getting a canister filter tomorrow or the next day. Good idea? Marineland c220. Any I advise/ comments appreciated.
Hmmm look like your environement is in cycling process... white cloudy water can appear, as autotrophic bacterias multiply very fast in these condition...

I'll suggest you do often big water changes... It will solve by itself.


the product "Nutrafin Cycle" help and fasten the process of cycling, but you must wait.

1. Put water with antichlorine and cycle product.
2. After 10 days mesure ammonia and nitrites. If they both 0ppm, then your cycle is ready. If no, wait more and add more cycle to the filters.
3. Add fishs.

Never add 20 fishs to a new setup tank... Add them progressively, so cycle will adapt...
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:37 PM   #13
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the product "Nutrafin Cycle" help and fasten the process of cycling, but you must wait.

1. Put water with antichlorine and cycle product.
2. After 10 days mesure ammonia and nitrites. If they both 0ppm, then your cycle is ready. If no, wait more and add more cycle to the filters.
3. Add fishs.

Never add 20 fishs to a new setup tank... Add them progressively, so cycle will adapt...
You cant cycle a tank without an ammonia source. Waiting 10 days to add fish will do nothing. Ammonia and nitrite readings mean nothing if you are not adding an ammonia source.


Since you are already cycling with the fish your goal is to keep the fish from having permanent damage and scar tissue from ammonia and nitrite poisoning. The sand will help but some seeded filter media from an established tank would be better. Getting the material from any source has the potential to transfer pathogens.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:16 PM   #14
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ask your lfs if they have any old filter media you can have to cycle your tank. just make sure it stays wet. someone gave me an old filter pad off one of their tanks and it cycled almost right away
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:50 PM   #15
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You cant cycle a tank without an ammonia source. Waiting 10 days to add fish will do nothing. Ammonia and nitrite readings mean nothing if you are not adding an ammonia source.


Since you are already cycling with the fish your goal is to keep the fish from having permanent damage and scar tissue from ammonia and nitrite poisoning. The sand will help but some seeded filter media from an established tank would be better. Getting the material from any source has the potential to transfer pathogens.
Dude, When I started my 29g, for no reason there was 3ppm NH3+NH4 in my tasnk. I buyed fluval sratum for planted tanks.

9 days later I was at

NH3+NH4: 0
NO2: 0
NO3: 15

using nutrafin cycle,,, but i most admit I used my GF betta to do this
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Dude, When I started my 29g, for no reason there was 3ppm NH3+NH4 in my tasnk. I buyed fluval sratum for planted tanks.

9 days later I was at

NH3+NH4: 0
NO2: 0
NO3: 15

using nutrafin cycle,,, but i most admit I used my GF betta to do this
You could have chloramine in your tapwater. There is debate over the efficacy of bottled bacteria but some people find it helpful. If you had ammonia in your tapwater perhaps that is what fed your bacteria.

I'm not a "dude", I am a female.

And I believe you meant "I bought"

Just because that scenario worked for you doesn't mean it is the appropriate or safest method or the correct advice to give someone.
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You could have chloramine in your tapwater. There is debate over the efficacy of bottled bacteria but some people find it helpful. If you had ammonia in your tapwater perhaps that is what fed your bacteria.

I'm not a "dude", I am a female.

And I believe you meant "I bought"

Just because that scenario worked for you doesn't mean it is the appropriate or safest method or the correct advice to give someone.
LOL....the bottled crap is garbage and a quick solution to nothing. Just do the ammonia trick or responsibly cycle with fish in.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #18
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Tap water is 0 ammonia, probably the substrate... I add dechlorinator, and after add the Bacteria product. It worked very well. Ammonia switched to nitrites in 5 days, then nitrites to nitrates 4 days later.

No need to wait 1 month with this products
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I tested my tap water today. There was an ammonia reading of .25 ppm. Also while testing my aquarium water the nitrite reduced to 0. Nitrate reduced 10 ppm. And the aquarium ammonia is starting to drop.
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