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Old 08-10-2011, 02:56 PM   #11
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I looked at the Mars Fishcare website - it looks like it's the parent company of API, Rena, Pondcare, and Aquarian. Further research showed that my test kits are API kits.

We'd like to go for an all-male Peacock tank, but at this rate we won't have any peacocks left. Our remaining two are very sick. The rest of the fish seem compatible, but we'll have to rehome our venustus and our pleco, which will all be too big (all three are currently juveniles, pleco is probably two inches).
I'm somewhat surprised that the local fish store would not tell us that the pleco gets so large!!!!


We didn't take a nitrite reading. We did do a gH reading, which was a bit soft, so we are increasing the hardness.

The stuartgranti's fins: They look a little tattered along the ends, with white (don't look fuzzy, but fairly bright) spots just along the frayed edge. Sometimes he floats with one fin pinned to his body and the other moving normally. The rest of his body sort of looks blotchy - small round circles that look a bit lighter and duller than the rest, especially under his chin. They aren't really white and they aren't really fuzzy.

W started a does of antibiotics yesterday because so many fish are sick/have already died. Was that wrong? I know we need to test the water more frequently now.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:39 AM   #12
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I looked at the Mars Fishcare website - it looks like it's the parent company of API, Rena, Pondcare, and Aquarian. Further research showed that my test kits are API kits.

We'd like to go for an all-male Peacock tank, but at this rate we won't have any peacocks left. Our remaining two are very sick. The rest of the fish seem compatible, but we'll have to rehome our venustus and our pleco, which will all be too big (all three are currently juveniles, pleco is probably two inches).
I'm somewhat surprised that the local fish store would not tell us that the pleco gets so large!!!!


We didn't take a nitrite reading. We did do a gH reading, which was a bit soft, so we are increasing the hardness.

The stuartgranti's fins: They look a little tattered along the ends, with white (don't look fuzzy, but fairly bright) spots just along the frayed edge. Sometimes he floats with one fin pinned to his body and the other moving normally. The rest of his body sort of looks blotchy - small round circles that look a bit lighter and duller than the rest, especially under his chin. They aren't really white and they aren't really fuzzy.

W started a does of antibiotics yesterday because so many fish are sick/have already died. Was that wrong? I know we need to test the water more frequently now.
Pleco first, it happens all the time, to often actually. A lot of FS don't care about the fish at all, they just want to make a sale.
But if you want to have a Pleco, there are soooo many that are smaller and will fit really well into your tank. Some are really cool I'll post a few photo's of a couple of them, at the end.

Now for your sick fish. It sounds like they started with a parasite and have developed secondary infections. But not to worry, there are Medicines out there that treat parasites, fungus and bacterial infections all at the same time.
I've had great success with Seachems line of medicines, they have many to choose from. If it were me I would start with one called ParaGuard.
It is used for ectoparasites ( e.g. ick, etc.) and external fungal/bacterial/viral lesions (e.g. fin rot).
Then if it turns out to be internal, I would use Kanaplex. It treats several fungal, bacterial diseases, Dropsy, popeye, fin rot, septicemia. Because it is absorbed by fish it is useful in treating internal infections, even in situations when food is refused.
A lot of people use Melefix and Primafix. I've used both with 0 response from my fish. While I wasted time using Melefix/Primafix instead of the Seachems meds., I lost a few fish. So I went back to my trusted Seachem meds. & the rest of my fish got better.
There are other members that heartily recommend Melefix, but your guy's have been sick for a while. So you don't have the time to try things that won't work.

Which antibiotic are you using now?

Here are a few photos of the smaller Pleco. They range from 5" as an adult to 3" as an adult.

From left to right, & top to bottom-first is the Green Dragon Bushynose (BN) Pleco. Then the smallest Pleco I've ever heard of, the little Pit Bull. Next is a Long Fin BN Albino. Last but not least is the Gold Nugget Pleco. It's really beautiful, but kinda pricey. I bought 2 of them online for $50.00 each and both died within 48 hours of arrival.
Now I have 2 Green Dragon BN in my Mbuna tank & 3 Long Fin Albino BN in my Angelfish tank. They are both hardy and easy to care for. The Pit Bull Pleco is iffy in a Malawi tank, because they are very peaceful and may not defend themselves against an aggressive fish. But you never know until you try.
I think the Gold Nugget would be fine if you buy them locally, instead of shipping like I did. It was just to stressful for the 1.5" liittle guys.
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I couldn't view the photos of the plecos, but I did a web search and they look very cool! Definitely something we will look into.

We have just completed a five-day course of Maracyn 2 - is that appropriate? I'll keep those other suggestions in mind.

We did lose the jacobfreibergi a few days ago, but the stuartgranti is looking a bit healthier. We moved him to the hospital tank today, so hopefully we'll see some improvement.

Hey, thanks again for all of your help. It's been very reassuring to connect with someone with experience who is willing to help and I've learned a lot in the process.
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I couldn't view the photos of the plecos, but I did a web search and they look very cool! Definitely something we will look into.

We have just completed a five-day course of Maracyn 2 - is that appropriate? I'll keep those other suggestions in mind.

We did lose the jacobfreibergi a few days ago, but the stuartgranti is looking a bit healthier. We moved him to the hospital tank today, so hopefully we'll see some improvement.

Hey, thanks again for all of your help. It's been very reassuring to connect with someone with experience who is willing to help and I've learned a lot in the process.
Sorry to hear you lost another one. But glad to hear the stuartgranti is looking better.
As far as the Maracyn goes, I'm not a fan. It's never done anything for me. I've had much better results with just increasing the water temp. and adding API Aquarium Salt.
But if it's working, go for it. I know what's worked for me and what hasn't over the last 7 years. So I'm not big on switching, if it works well why change. Unless it's something new that has been taking the hobby by storm.
But if you have good luck with something that never worked for me, I won't tell you not to use it, unless it's considered dangerous.
Your quite welcome for the help. Peolple were very generous with their help when I needed it. I enjoy being able to give back. Plus it's nice having someone here on AA that's so close. So many are across the states or half way across the globe. They are almost always in a different time zone.
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Hi Newbie from PDX,
I'm from McMinnville, just a bit south west of you, that was dumb, I'm sure you know where Mac is.
Welcome to AA, your going to love it here. It's as addictive as the fish are.
It's great to have someone near by that loves Cichlids like we do. No matter what your level of knowledge is you can still learn something here, and some times newbies even teach us a thing or two.

What size tank do you have and which type of Malawi's? How many are boys & how many girls?

For now I have a 55g with Yellow labs, White Labs, Cobalt Blue Zebras, 1 Red Top Zebra (trying for more),some Kenyi & Acei White Tails. I also have 1 adult standard Bushynose Pleco and 2 baby Green Dragon Bushynose Plecos, one because they are small and sweet and 2 they eat all the algae. So I don't ever have to clean Algae from my tanks.
A 10g with 16 hybrid fry, 2 Yellow Lab fry and 1 White lab fry.
I have another 55g Angelfish tank, they are also cichlids, not sure why. But I have 6 Angels, 2 pair Koi, 2 pair Gold Veil tail and 2 pair Half Black Blushing Veil tail. There are 4 Hifin Black Skirt Tetras (a schooling fish) and 3 baby Long Fin Bushynose Plecos that are already beautiful and they keep the algae away too.
Although I am searching for a 75g for my Mbunas (Malawi's) and a 90-100g for the Angels. The Mbunas need more floor and the Angels need the taller tank.
If you PM me I will share my email with you. Your close enough that if you need help, I'd be willing to help in person. I'm not as big an expert as some, like HUKIT, he's awesome. But I'm no slouch, I can hold my own pretty well.
Welcome to an awesome hobby that will calm your nerves and fill you with joy.
Hey what kind of hybrid fish are they
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Hey what kind of hybrid fish are they
Mama is a Kenyi and Dad is the Alpha Red Top Zebra. I have 7 left, 2 I think are male and 5 I think are female. They are quite beautiful, this is what they look like, only twice as big now.
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