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Old 12-06-2012, 09:02 AM   #1
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Newbie with a few questions!

I am very new to marine fishkeeping. I have a 35ltr/10 gal setup. It is a biube tank that i have converted to saltwater. I use RSO (i think its called that) water that i buy from my local fish shop. It will be a fish only tank which i have stocked with cured live rock. It has been running for about 4 weeks and it currently houses 3 hermit crabs and 2 snails. The ammonia spike has been present for about 2 weeks with no signs of change yet.

I have seen that this first stage of the cycle lasts between 4 & 8 weeks as a general rule, but when does the countdown start? Is it from the time the tank is set up? Or from when the ammonia first spikes?

I was advised to add clean up crew by my local fish shop but since viewing other posts i am now worried that i was advised to do this for their financial gains rather than the health of my tank.

With the ammonia currently spiking does anyone know the likely hood of my crabs and snails coming to any harm? What would you recommend i do to reduce any potential risk?

Any advice or pointers in the right direction are greatly welcomed and appreciated. Many thanks in Advance
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:26 AM   #2
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Oh and sorry to be rude. I didnt even think to introduce myself. Im Lee im 21 yrs old and this is my first saltwater tank. I have little experiance but am trying to do as much research as possible to ensure mistakes are minimised but with this being a new venture i am sure they are inevitable. I live in manchester england and i have little boy who is 8 months old.
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I always figure it starts from the first sign of ammonia. How are you doing (getting ammonia) the cycle?
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Thanks Andrew, ammonia is at around1.0ppm sometimes slightly lower i believe thats ok but not too sure. I have not seen any nitrites but Nitates seem to be at about 10-20ppm. Do you think i need to take any action with regards to the health of my snails and crabs?
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Thanks Andrew, ammonia is at around1.0ppm sometimes slightly lower i believe thats ok but not too sure. I have not seen any nitrites but Nitates seem to be at about 10-20ppm. Do you think i need to take any action with regards to the health of my snails and crabs?
How are you.getting an ammonia source? Are you adding ammonia from a bottle? Dead something or live critters only?
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live critters, snails crabs, anything in my live rock and i am also adding a few pellets every few days
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Water change after water change to keep ammonia levels at 0. Then once there is no more spikes then add more live stuff, like a fish. Ammonia will probably start coming up again because you added more of a load. So again water changes after water changes to get it down.
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Here is an article for live aquarium cycles.

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/fishin...tep-dark-side/
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i did read that i shouldnt change the water so i havent done any changes as of yet as it would remove some of the beneficial bacteria, i have changed my filter to see if this would help. It does make sense though if it reduces the ammonia, how often do you think i should be doing water changes?
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i did read that i shouldnt change the water so i havent done any changes as of yet as it would remove some of the beneficial bacteria, i have changed my filter to see if this would help. It does make sense though if it reduces the ammonia, how often do you think i should be doing water changes?
Water changes during a fish in cycle all depends on how the water tests. If its above 0 then you need to be doing a water change or changes to get it down. High ammonia and nitrite levels will badly stress the fish and possibly kill them. During this time the filter is the key part that holds the good bacteria and I wouldn't start changing or cleaning it till it completes the cycle. So in a day you may be doing 2 or 3 water changes. I'd start now with a 50% water change to get the ammonia down. Then tonight re test if its still high or still tests the same then do a bigger % water change.

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