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Old 04-26-2011, 10:34 AM   #11
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Nah, PETCO and Petsmart are two separate stores. Both have people working in fish that have (often) a very limited knowledge of fish.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:42 PM   #12
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Limited you say !!
The only fish they can identify here are 'goldfish' haha !
Our normal 'specialist' supplier is really good though, they will ask how long the tank has been running and what other fish you already have, so you aren't about to mix species that would tear each other apart.
I am only doing FW, because SW looks like another level and the fish are mega-bucks !
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:10 PM   #13
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Yup, I'm FW as well...hopefully.

Well, we transferred my black skirts to my Mom's tank and I'm monitoring the ammonia there very carefully to see if a PWC is needed. Hoping to get some ammonia for my own tank and cycle it fish-less-ly. Probably (very likely) going to get mocked for it. Ahahaha. ...haha.

Are there any good algae controllers for a 10 gallon?
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:07 PM   #14
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Algae eaters

Plec's are the obvious choice, be sure to get a bristlenose, cause they grow to around 4˝ inches only. I had some golden algae eaters once, they tear around the tank almost causing a whirlpool effect !
Just recently got some pitbull plec's, about 1 inch long, growing to 3 inches, they are 'entertaining'. If you look in the FW forum, there's a whole thread on plec's of various types, very interesting.
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Otos are good for a small tank, though make sure you have the algae to suport them, as well a be ready to supplement feed... They are efficent little guys. You might also consider ghost shrimp as a cuc, though again, establish the tanks chemistry first (they're fun to watch too, though sadly they frequently become snacks)
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:28 PM   #16
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I didn't say people at the LFS never know what they're talking about, I was just stating that they are often motivated by money, and that we aren't.
Algae eaters aren't really necessary. If you develop an algae problem, you should find the source instead. That's not to say you couldn't have some if you want them, but they aren't necessary and really shouldn't be used as a resolution to an issue.
Cool beans on your aspirations to fish-less cycle.

Edit: Thought I'd mention ottos are every bit as sensitive as shrimp, if not more.
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Old 04-27-2011, 03:42 AM   #17
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Jenatron's right, but algae is almost unavoidable ! That's what fish like Pleco's like, so as they are also a favourite fish (for me anyway) it's a good idea to get what you like that will also deal with algae build-up.
Cory's are an interesting species too, I have some bronze and peppered varieties, you would need at least three, they like their own company.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:37 AM   #18
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I'm gonna beg to differ that algae is almost unavoidable. I've never had an algae "problem," that needed to be remedied.
I'm not saying these are the only causes, but algae is frequently caused by overfeeding, leaving the lights on too long, sun exposure, water quality, etc. Once again, this isn't the cause in every situation, but it is commonly.
I'm stressing this because a lot of algae eaters (even some mentioned in this thread) really aren't recommended for tanks this small.
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The current stock list I'm thinking of is 6 neon tetras, 1 dwarf gourami, and a bunch of red cherry shrimp and some nerite snails.
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Not a fan of snails, but otherwise if you could hear fish speak, I bet your selection will be saying 'Home sweet home' moments after they arrive !
Algae - If you have natural light, there is a potential for algae. Not to a 'problem' level perhaps, but certainly here in UK most stores would recommend keeping a catfish of some sort (usually plec's), which helps control algae. There are vast numbers of these species, there's bound to be one that you just can't resist. I have a talking catfish and he's a stunner, but only at night after the light's gone out. But worth staying up for, such is the 'charm' of his presence. (strewth,,, almost poetic !! what's come over me !).
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