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Old 03-09-2004, 09:10 PM   #11
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thanks again!

The 100w isn't doing the job. Its on 100%, and keeps the water at about 75.

The smaller whisper is actually still operating decently, the bigger one is barely moving any water

I like the canister idea. But since they're a bit bigger than i thought, i may just end up getting that emperor 400, if it fits behind there.

The cabinet is already set up so the measurements are gunna be somewhat limited.

Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll do some more reasearch (making sure they'll fit in the cabinet) and probably end up purchasing one soon!

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Old 03-09-2004, 11:09 PM   #12
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Watts Tank Size
50 10 -15 Gallons
75 15 - 20 Gallons
100 20 - 30 Gallons
125 30 - 45 Gallons
150 40 - 60 Gallons
200 60 - 90 Gallons
250 90+ Gallons
That scale looks like its only accurate up until the third or fourth tank size.
I disagree--the larger the tank, the less heat you are losing to the surrounding environment (surface area).
I keep a 200w in my 80 gal and it does a terrific job.
rhetor, it looks like you are on the right track!


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Old 03-09-2004, 11:48 PM   #13
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I like the Aqua Clear 500's personally for hang on back and Fluval 404 for a canister...You can use one or the other or both.. Great filtration.
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IMHO - General Rule of Thumb:

5watts of heater for every gallon. (What I've been told)

A 50 gallon tank would work great with a 250...

You should consider buying two 150's ... it might be a bit of overkill but it will even out the temp throughout the whole tank.. plus it is sorta like insurance... one fails.. the other tries to make up for it.

I went a bit overkill and put 2-100w heaters in mine.. one on each end layed horizontal... It is only a 30 gallon tank.. so 150 would be enough.

I did only have only 1-100w heater but that quickly changed when I came home and saw my temp down to 68. Never more than 2 degrees off when I check it now.
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Old 03-10-2004, 04:14 AM   #15
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I use a 250 watt Ebo on my 55 gal.
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I know I sound repetetive always plugging these filters, but personally, I'd go wit an AquaClear 500, would do just as good a job as a canister filter on that tank, and are normally only about 35 bucks. They turn over about 500gallons of water an hour,so, an excellent rate for a 55, and are extremely reliable. Can never go wrong with these filters, they've been around, pretty much unchanged for 20 years, and I've never seen them steer anyone wrong, my top choice for almost ANY tank up to a 75 gallon.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:02 AM   #17
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if aquaclears havent changed in that long, then tell me what this aquaclear 610 i have is. i believe it was replaced by the newer model 200.
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Old 03-10-2004, 08:00 AM   #18
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I have an emperor on my FW tank and I love it. It isn't too loud and moves water quickly. I bought mine at petco and ended paying around $39.99 for the 400(plus free ship), since I was a first time customer I had a coupon. Maybe something to consider if you choose this filter.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:17 PM   #19
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Here is where you can read up on the Emperor filters


You can download the manual and check out the measurements and such. I'm a little confused about your measurement requirements but I do know that you will need to provide a fair amount of space between the tank glass and the wall (I think around 6 inches will work).

As for heaters it really depends. If you live in Alaska and you don't keep your room heated then that 250w heater isn't gonna do jack squat!... lol. The point is the proper heater depends on your tank volume AND room temperature.

I have a 55 gallon tank and I have a 300w heater cuz I don't heat my house. When it gets down in the low '60s I just bundle up. So my tank really needs the extra wattage. If I kept my house climate controlled in the '70s then I could get away with a much smaller heater. When in doubt error on the high side. Generally though 250w for 55 gallon will be more than enough.

Good luck!

Oh.. and here is a great site to by this stuff from. The Emperor and the Aquaclear are available at great prices.

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Old 03-10-2004, 07:02 PM   #20
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Provided it fits in there, i think i'll be going with the emperor 400. I like the biowheel idea, and it seems to be a highly recomended filter!

The aquaclear looks like it'll be too big to fit in there.

I have only about 5-6" behind the aquarium glass, the whispers just make it in there (i built the cabinet around them).

Thanks for the manual. it didn't have measurements of the filter case, but i'll just check that out next time i stop by the pet store.

Thanks for all the help guys and gals

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