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Old 01-30-2006, 02:01 AM   #1
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75 gallon reef tank...and canister filter

Hello everyone out there. I am a new member to this site and I decided to put it to some use. Im starting my first reef tank and im very excited. I was given a 75 gallon aquarium with stand.

Well I have a couple questions...but first let me stress to you that I have been reading for years about this hobby, I work at a fish store so I deal with the fish all the time, I take care of other peoples fish tanks while there away so im not new to this. Its just a couple tenical questions that I have.

Since it is hard for me to get the tank drilled and have a overflow put in and put a trickle filter in the stand (which is what I want) is it ok to go with a canister filter? Thats a huge question that I dont know the awnser to.


As of this point I was looking at any medications the people who owned the tank had put in...as far as I know they seem to be nothin to "harsh" thats stays a residue on the glass. It was just some ich cure, algea away, and some declorinator/fish helper. So I dont think none of those will have any effect on the fish as long as I scrub it down with boiling water, then a vinger water solution. I should be ok right?

Well as of this point I have no other questions but I will keep posted of anymore I have. So thanks a million in advance and happy fish keeping
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:13 AM   #2
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Welcome aboard!!!!

You will get lots of great help and meet great SW people here!!!

1st, ***DO NOT USE BOILING WATER ON YOUR TANK***

2nd, I have only used a sump or wet dry system, so I do not know about the canisters... but I am sure I have seen members here mention them... edit your post title with Canister in it... bet you get some replies

What are you planning on keeping in there? FOWLR or REEF? I bet you are super excited!
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:26 AM   #3
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its gonna be a reef tank and yes trust me I use boiling water all the time on my reptile tanks...it gets rid of alot of crap. but thanks for replying so fast and I will change my title to have canister in it :P
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:04 AM   #4
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anyone???
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:18 AM   #5
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First off, Welcome to Aquarium Advice!!!!!!


Secondly,
Since you plan on going reef, I will offer what help I can.

Lighting will be the most important factor in a reef, but in order to help you figure out which lighting, what kind of budget are you working with? After knowing this, we can figure out if you would/could get halides, power compacts, VHOs, T5s, etc.

Protein Skimmer: I use a Coralife Superskimmer which I absolutely love. Its honestly a little sickening to see all the crap thats in the water. Ew. Just steer clear from Seaclones (they suck without heavy modding)

Live Rock, you could either buy a bunch of live rock. Or if you don't mind waiting, get maybe 40lbs dried reef bones (base rock) and 35-40lbs of LR. General rule is 1-1.5lbs of LR per gallon of water.

Substrate: Some will preach sand, some will preach crushed coral, and some rebels will tell you to go bare bottom. Honestly it's all what you want to look at. I like the look of the sand personally.

As for the canister filter, I'm not too well versed on these. On my tank I have a phosban reactor running the phos-ban media and carbon which returns through a spraybar. This set up seems to work well, all levels are zero.

You would be fine with just a skimmer and a good amount of live rock/sand. But I feel more comfortable having some type of mechanical filtration running which is why I have the phosban/carbon reactor running.



Hope this helps,

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Old 01-30-2006, 03:21 AM   #6
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Hey you have the same name as me :P and dont worry I know all that stuff the only thing I found benifical was the brand of skimmer you use. Everything else I have a grasp on. Lighting will be metal halides and there will be 100+ pounds live rock. But if you have any other advice I would love to hear it.
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Heh, just be patient. Don't rush into adding fish. And most importantly, have fun and keep us updated on your new tank!

Good luck,
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I've had a canister filter for the past three years and hosted a number of corals, inverts and fish. It's a myth from (in my opinion) folks who don't have the experience with both canister filters and wet/dry.

A filter's purpose is to filter. The arguement of "bacteria levels" is utter fud if you have enough live rock.

In the three years I've had one I have made mistakes yes such as over feeding, insufficient light, etc but never have I ever had an amonia, nitrite or nitrate issue.

Phosphates YES I have had issue with but that was taken into check with appropritae knowledge on feeding and lighting. I say lighting because as my golfball died off bit by bit I had serious cyno issues (golfballs requires lot of light), high phosphate levels and so forth. By keeping appropriate corals for my lighting I haven't had any cyno issues anymore.

Anyways, I'm rambling... I was speaking to a LFS chain owner and he was saying the "current" thing is refrigums, and wet/dry is out.

In short, canister filters are fine. Keep up the filter pad changes (as you would in wet/dry) and ensure you have enough live rock (as you should anyways) and you'll be fine.
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I use a Magnum 350 canister And it seems so far to work great It has dual capabilities. It can be a mechanical/chemical filter as well as a water polisher. (i used the water polisher to help with the sand cloudyness and it worked great)

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i use a fluval 204 on my 55g works good
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