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Old 08-11-2005, 10:46 PM   #11
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Well, the labs are peaceful as far as Mbuna go, but not necessarily compared to a lot of other fish. I don't know anything about the demasoni, though.
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For a normal tank (i.e. not a discus tank or a planted tank for example) I think the Top Fin kit is the best deal for your $. Everthing it comes with is fine for general fishkeeping, and at $150 its tough to beat the price.
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I wouldn't mix Africans with non-Africans. There are a few exceptions, but it varies with each fish personality.
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i plan to get them small and there will be alot of hiding places for the fish. what would go well with the yellow labs that look like demonsoni? i want to have a really yellow fish and a really blue fish to create contrast in my tank. any ideas?
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if you want the 125 set up in near future, i'd suggest you do just that, skipping the 55g on the way.

but if you really want an intermediate cichlid tank and don't want to handle the demasoni aggro (BTW, they are fondly called 'demons' ), i'd suggest ps. acei - a blue fish with yellow/white tails. they have a mild temperament and will occupy the upper region of your tank (pretty rare for a mbuna). i think fishy would vouch for them .

clown loaches are a common fixture in ARLC tanks. but put them in at a slightly bigger size (3"+ ) to avoid bullying. they have erectable spines under their eyes, which is why they are left alone. cories would definitely be bullied.

you could try ps. socolfi or ps. saulosi (only dominant male) for the blue effect too...melanochromis johannii / cyaneorhabdos...and...and...
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:55 AM   #16
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You know my style Tetrin. I would definately vouch for Acei's. They are beautiful fish and tend to school. Not school in the sense that you see Tetra's schooling, but they hang together most of the time and swim together. I haven't seen any other mbuna's do that before. They just have a uniqueness to them. There are also other colored Acei's, but then you are looking for the rare ones. Well, rare around here at least. The Tanzanian Black's are black with the yellow tail. The Acei's and Yellow Labs get along together perfectly.

Regarding the Johanni, it depends on which strain you get. Some of them are highly aggressive and some are pretty calm. The socolfi and saulosi are also good choices. My brother has a Socolofi that he calls his Bling Bling fish because it looked like platnum when they bought it.

I have some pics of my Acei's in my gallery if you want to get a visual. A great site for pics of Malawi's is www.malawimayhem.com You're going to want to look in the Pseudotropheus section. They tend to be the less aggressive. HTH
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ok i really like your johanni. and from what i see it is compatible with the yellow labs. in a 55 gallon tank how many of these fish could i have? i was thinking somewhere along the lines of 4 johani's and 4 yellow labs with a few chinese algea eaters (because they are yellow i tohught they would look best in the tank) and maybe a loach or 2 (i was thinknig clown loaches) will this be ok?
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The clown loaches are going to be about 12 inches at full size. Be prepared for an upgrade in the tank.

The johanni that I had was really aggressive. That particular strain is aggressive. Scientific name: Melanochromis cyaneorhabdos. Mine reached about 6 inches before we had to give him up (too aggressive). But if you get juvis, you may have a better experience mixing them.
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just a note on the johanni's -
in case you are attracted to them by their color, only males attain that coloration, females are orange. in a 55g, its not advisable to have more than 1 male. it can be done, just not advisable. the melanochromis genus is not renowned for their social skills.

melanochromis cyaneorhabdos, on the other hand, is sexually monomorphic, i.e. males and females have the same coloration. and its really hard to tell them apart at the size they are usually sold. they'd also love to be in a harem of 1m-3f.

but in the end i'll second fishy and say acei's are the best tankmates for labs.
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