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Old 11-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #1
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Canister vs HOB

I'm thinking about a canister for my 29g planted tank (partly from sand), but am unsure if I want to make the jump. I'm a stickler for keeping the filter clean, and I clean my HOB every week when I change the water (and I also use water that is slightly muddy). While I'm not afraid of maintinence, how involved and messy is it? Also, what model of either do I want? I do like the Tetra Biobags as they are easy to clean. I may go with two smaller filters when I replace my (quickly) wearing Top Fin Power Filter 75 (again, sand). I want to keep one running when I have the other down for cleaning (and also to Bogardt if I need to start a hospital tank). Is a HOB better for me or should I make the jump to a can? Which one(s) should I put in?
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:01 PM   #2
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I definitely think if you have the funds to go for a canister. The sand shouldnt be much of a problem as long as it doesnt stir up too much. Youll just set the intake bar a bit higher. Maintenance isnt that bad, but since theres more media it takes a bit more time, but nothing excrutiating. What you put in your filter is up to you. I usually go with ceramic ring(porous), polishing pads, coarse pads, bioballs(usually for sumps but i decided to stock it). In your case, if you want two filters, you can easily get two HW-602B Mini made by sunsun with 106gph and they are only 30bucks. I vouch for the robustness and durability aswell as silence of these filters.

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Old 11-29-2014, 11:20 PM   #3
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Canister vs HOB

You don't have anything to worry about with sand when you have a canister - you can put the intake right near the sand. The reason HOBs are fouled by sand is the location of the motor. A canisters motor is on the top of the filter and the water that passes through is filtered. An HOBs motor is at the bottom, where sand collects, and the water that passes through is unfiltered so anything can get in there.

I just picked up a 603 to try it out. If it's as good as the rest of the sunsuns I have, I'll be getting a few more. However, what I said earlier may or may not be true of the 600 series because of the placement of the motor. And too, there are two models the 602 and 603. The only difference is the size of the filter, with the 3 being a bit larger.
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:54 PM   #4
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Does SunSun put their motor somewhere besides where the rest of the canisters do or something?
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:57 PM   #5
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The motor on the 600 series (mini canisters) is at the bottom of the filter rather than the top. And it's external. I'm anxious to see how it handles the sand.

The regular filters have their motors in the filter head like just about every other canister.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:09 AM   #6
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Sounds like the SunSun 600 series may put me right back where I am now with my HOBs.
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:25 AM   #7
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For a 29 gallon I would get a 302 model (265 GPH). ~$50 on eBay.
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This one?

http://www.amazon.com/SunSun-HW-302-.../dp/B00892EN22

Sounds tempting. Is the motor in the usual after media spot?
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Yes that's the one. The motor is in the top where they usually are. The "pro kit" comes with media, and for an extra $5 or so, I think it's worth it even though you may need to buy additional media to fill the filter. The white pads are a floss material. The blue is a sponge. Amazon sells 3 packs of sponges for like $7 - I would get them to replace the white pads as your primary mechanical filtration.
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I guess any media will go won't they? As long as it's the right consistency (floss, sponge, gravel, etc.)
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