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Old 09-28-2008, 05:17 AM   #1
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Choice of new canister filter help

I am restarting my 100 Gallon F/W tank after moving to our new home. I have been running a Magnum 350 for 5 years, good filter but lacks biological filtration which has caused some problems SO, I am going to buy a new canister filter and (i won't buy online because i want to see before I buy.) the 2 choices I have are these,

1) the FLUVAL 405

2) THE RENA XP 3 & XP 4.

I need to know the pros & cons of these filters and WHY.
I read on these forums how some canister filters are always breaking or leaking and i don't remember what kind those were. what is the best filter of these two and WHY ?
I need the filter by the end of the week and the fish store has both in stock. I know there are other filters out there but those are not available here just those two i mentioned.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:48 PM   #2
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All my filters are fluvial. I have the 304 on my 55 and the FX5 on my 125. I think between the two brands, they are both about the same. Go to petsmart or petco and take them apart and see which you like better. Then buy it for a lot cheaper online.
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:00 PM   #3
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How long is your tank and what kind of fish do you have in it? The reason that I'm asking is because I have a Rena XP3 in my 100g (5ft long) discus tank and it's way underpowered for the tank IMO. The XP3 is probably best on tanks 4ft long with a 75/90 gallon being the best overall fit for the filter.

Some benefits of the XP3 are it's removable media baskets which allow a large number of options from running multiple foam pads to running various stages of chemical filtrations and biofiltration media. It also has a spray bar attatchment on the outlet side which can be placed at one end of an 18" wide tank (55 is too narrow to allow this) to spray the waste to the other end where the intake tube is. It's an excellent filter overall but it's not right for my tank. I'd rather have two Aqua Clear 70's or something that would sufficiently suck up the excrement and would allow me to easily change the filter pads every other day. Depending on what type of fish you have in the tank this filter would work though, but I wouldn't recommend it for discus.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:45 AM   #4
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My tank is 4 feet long, a standard 100 gallon plexi. I have been looking at the filters and the Xp3 says it is for up to 175 G i think and the Xp4 is for 200 +. yours doesn't seem to be powerful enough for your tank ? thats good to know. I have been looking at
the XP 3 & 4
Fluval 405
the marineland C-360
I want a filter that
has strong parts that don't keep breaking,
no water bypass
NO LEAKS
enough power for my 100 Gallon
dependable, quiet, vibration free operation
and a filter that will do what it claims to do.
I want to have different media options at the same time.
right now my tank is empty and cleaned out since moving to our new home, I havent had time to set it up until now & I want to do it right and do the things i wish i'd done the last time i set it up. first thing is the new filter choice.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:59 PM   #5
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I have a Fluval on my 56 gallon tank, and a Marineland C-series on my 55 gallon tank. By far, my choice is for the Fluval. It is QUIET, reliable, and so far I haven't had any issues with water leaks, although I have read reports from other owners of having problems with leaks. My only complaint with the Fluval is with the hoses supplied with the filter for the supply and return plumbing. Instead of using conventional vinyl tubing like my Marineland uses, the Fluval has vacuum cleaner style hoses which makes it near impossible to add inline accessories such UV sterilizers.
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how do the flow rates compare to each other ? I like to get something rated a little higher than necessary to be on the safe side. if you had a larger tank and had to pick just 1 filter, which would you choose of the 2
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The xp4, I have a Fluval 304 on my 55G and like it, its not a perfect filter, it can bypass in a sense by the design. I got mine b/c it was the cheapest one and for me its great.

Manufacturer ratings are way overrated, many like XP3's on like 55G size tanks, or XP2's and a Koralia #2 powerhead if its highly planted. I just added a Koralia #1 to my 55G and like it and prob should have gotten the #2.

If you want a Fluval 404, you can get new ones on ebay for cheap, $85 shipped. If you paying money for a new model deff get the XP4 instead.

Last I knew Ken;s had great prices on Rena filters:
http://kensfish.com/filstarcanisterfilters.html
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Thanks ! I want to make sure i make the right choice and would rather get a larger filter than is needed to be on the safe side.
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:21 AM   #9
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here is some info just for comparrison of many filters, and there specs
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums.../t-151091.html


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Thanks ! great list
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