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Old 04-26-2006, 12:49 PM   #1
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Diatom Filter - Report and a Question...

I went through a bout of Green Water after the tank was set up. Tried blackout and it helped somewhat, but the condition persisted. Then ordered a Diamtom Filter. Funny thing is that it had mostly cleared itself before the Diatom Filter arrived. Used the Diatom Filter anyway b/c I'd heard it can really "polish" the tank water. HOLY CRAP! It went from being "alright... maybe a bit brown from tannins" to "is there any water in there or are those fish flying?" NEVER did I expect it to get as clear as it did. Simply amazing.

Oh yeah, there was supposed to be a question in here! So for the recharges... Is there a good source of that Diatom powder other than ordering it online for the price of powdered gold?
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:31 PM   #2
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Swimming pool supply places have diatomaceous earth at a lot lower price. I have not tried it in my diatom filter yet though.
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Old 04-26-2006, 03:26 PM   #3
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I've always wondered how well the diatom filters worked, for the money they should be able to cook me dinner to lol how big of a mess was it to set up?
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Swimming pool supply places have diatomaceous earth at a lot lower price. I have not tried it in my diatom filter yet though.
Thanks Roach, I'll try the local pool store. Maybe even home depot would have it...

Then comes the question of how much to use...

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I've always wondered how well the diatom filters worked, for the money they should be able to cook me dinner to lol how big of a mess was it to set up?
It was incredible. I was really amazed. I tried to take a picture late last night and in the picture it didnt look as clear as I thought it was. Turns out I need to clean the glass b/c I'm seeing dirt on there in the photo. I really can't say enough about mine.

As far as the mess to clean up, it was a bit of a pain. I did the cleanup in the bathroom and did drop some water on the tile. Once I figured out HOW to do the cleanup, it wasnt bad. I'd think that it'd be much easier to do outside and not have to worry about the mess. I'm going to do this next time I think.
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Old 04-26-2006, 04:43 PM   #5
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now if you put one to kill diatom wouldnt that take away the food for you algae eathers? or is it better to not have that and just feed them for example wafers?
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Darb21...what kind of filter did you get, and what size tank do you have? I'm having the same problem on my 55 gal.
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:14 PM   #7
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My very good experience with a diatom filter - click on the webshots link for pics:
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Setup was easy. Cleanup was messy, but since I do that in the bathtub, I really don't care!

Kaz, the diatom filter will only remove algae, diatoms, and particles suspended in the water column. It won't remove algae and diatoms that are attached to glass or tank decor unless you scrub it off.

Darb, you can reuse the diatom charge a few times if you're simply polishing the water. Just give the filter a good shake to knock the powder off the bag. Let it settle and drain off as much water as you can. Then store the filter bottle uncovered in a warm sunny spot so the diatom powder can dry out.
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Kaz, the diatom filter will only remove algae, diatoms, and particles suspended in the water column. It won't remove algae and diatoms that are attached to glass or tank decor unless you scrub it off.

but sooner or later you will clean it and then what? feeding time for the cleanup crew
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kaz, I think you might be confused. A diatom filter does not "kill" or filter only diatoms, it simply removes anything of a particular size and larger. It's like a big coffee filter and you cycle your tank water over and over through it and it traps all the large particles in the water. This can be green water algae, diatoms that are free-floating, fish waste, plant parts, etc.

I don't get your response to QTOFFER however. When you clean the tank then of course there will be more algae/diatoms/waste suspended in the water. Then you have 2 options. Using the diatom filter to remove this (its impossible to get even close to all of the algae out of a tank), or leaving it alone and hoping that the algae eaters will eat it (which they won't since it would have ALREADY BEEN EATEN in the first place.

I normally clean the sides of my tank with a razor blade every couple of weeks to get rid of green spot algae, and "gunk" and then do a PWC right afterwards. I don't have a diatom filter, but if I did, I would most definately use it (unless it removes ferts that the plants in my planted tank need?). I'm not sure how inert the powder is....
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Darb21...what kind of filter did you get, and what size tank do you have? I'm having the same problem on my 55 gal.
Sorry for late reply. I ended up with a Vortex D-1 from http://diatomfilters.com/ purchased through eBay. Ended up at like $65 shipped or so. Are you still having problems with the 55?

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Darb, you can reuse the diatom charge a few times if you're simply polishing the water. Just give the filter a good shake to knock the powder off the bag. Let it settle and drain off as much water as you can. Then store the filter bottle uncovered in a warm sunny spot so the diatom powder can dry out.
Thanks for the tip! That is good to know. After that first run, I went ahead and just dumped the powder. Did drop by the pool supply shop today and got 25 lbs of the stuff for $12, LOL... MUCH cheaper than the stuff they try to sell you with the filter. So QTOFFER... How much powder have you been using on your recharges? I've got this whole big bag now, but don't have any clue how much to add... 1 cup? 1/2 cup maybe?

And how about this:
http://diatomfilters.com/index.html?...d=38707.320139

That gets my wheels turning... time to try and rig up a gravel vac to the D-1. Man that'd be really cool to be able to do a MEGA cleaning with a vac and not worry about losing a ton of water down the drain! Haha...
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