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Old 01-03-2010, 09:40 PM   #1
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Post Expert help needed as far as lighting, filtration and skimmer

Ok, I have a 36 gallon bowfront tank filled with R/O water and about 20 or so pounds of live rock. As of right now the water and live rock have only been in 2 days. I premixed the water with Instant Ocean salt and then added bio-sand and then the live rock. It sits right now at roughly 1.024 salinity at about 74 degrees. This is a list of what I'm using.

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subcurrent surface skimming filter (rated for up to 30 gallons even though my tank is 36 gallon, don't know why the guy talked me into it) this is a link to it Current SubCurrent-Surface Skimming Filter

normal stock hood lighting

Basically I'm looking to be steered in the right direction on what to get as far as lighting, filtration and skimmer and or whatever else is needed.

I want to set up a tank for live rock with fish and some anenomes and other such things. I've searched the net as much as I can but theres just so much info out there it's hard to find the right things. I would love some expert help. I would greatly appreciate it. Below are a couple of pics of my tank, thanks.
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:07 PM   #2
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For You to keep an anenome happy your going to need either metal halide or T5 lighting. Most people would not use a filter and just rely on the live rock for biological filtration and use powerheads for circulation. As for a skimmer you dont really need one in that small of a tank as long as you stay on top of your partial water changes.
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You will have to wait approx 12mths for the nem as they require good stable tank, but once that is sorted you will love them!
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Do you know anything about cycling a tank? If not, stop adding anything to the tank and read up on it.
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For You to keep an anenome happy your going to need either metal halide or T5 lighting.
T5HO or T5VHO not T5
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T5HO or T5VHO not T5
Ok after doing some reading I've found that metal halide requires a certain height above your water and also requires that you have a water chiller because of the immense heat the bulbs give off will over heat your water. Is this true? What is T5HO and T5VHO or just T5 in general?

I'm basically looking to be able to grow anything as far as corals and whatever else. I don't really want any boundries so I'de like the best lighting just don't know which route to go. Is T5 lighting as good as MH?
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Ok after doing some reading I've found that metal halide requires a certain height above your water and also requires that you have a water chiller because of the immense heat the bulbs give off will over heat your water. Is this true? What is T5HO and T5VHO or just T5 in general?

I'm basically looking to be able to grow anything as far as corals and whatever else. I don't really want any boundries so I'de like the best lighting just don't know which route to go. Is T5 lighting as good as MH?
T5 is the size (Diameter) of the lamp 5/8ths of an inch, HO=High output, VHO=Very High Output. Wattage on bulbs is determined by the length ie, 36" T5HO = 39 watts & T5VHO = 60 watts (same bulb), please note this isn't the case for all bulb manufacturers and you also need the correct ballast to make an HO bulb a VHO bulb. MH lighting is recommended but does have it's drawbacks like heating up the tank which may (Most likely) require you to get a chiller and thay are also expensive to buy and operate. Please be aware that this is a very simple and brief explanation, lighting is a very complex and expensive and important part of this hobby and requires a lot of research because it's not just how many watts your lighting puts out but the correct spectrum needs to be obtained as well as the proper PAR readings needed at a given depth. Here is a link to Sanjays lighting thread, check it out. Manhattan Reefs - Sanjay's Lighting Guide
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well, I dont think you wasted your money on that filter. For what $30? it will work as a powerhead at least. I would not use the carbon or bioballs, and use the rought filter pad, then get some polyester pillow filler for the secondary, and change it out weekly. Go find yourself a berlin sump, a small skimmer, and you are in business.

Read about the fishless cycle. If you have any raw shrimp in the house toss one into the tank. Otherwise find yourself some non surfuctant ammonia, at a hardware store, or a dollar store.

Fish don't need light like coral, anemones and clams. so if you are going to stick with the fish and live rock for now (FOWLR), don't sweat the lights.

good luck. with a fowlr tank you can get some of the better looking fish IMO.

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well, I dont think you wasted your money on that filter. For what $30? it will work as a powerhead at least. I would not use the carbon or bioballs, and use the rought filter pad, then get some polyester pillow filler for the secondary, and change it out weekly. Go find yourself a berlin sump, a small skimmer, and you are in business.

Read about the fishless cycle. If you have any raw shrimp in the house toss one into the tank. Otherwise find yourself some non surfuctant ammonia, at a hardware store, or a dollar store.

Fish don't need light like coral, anemones and clams. so if you are going to stick with the fish and live rock for now (FOWLR), don't sweat the lights.

good luck. with a fowlr tank you can get some of the better looking fish IMO.

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I actually went and bought a Fluval 205 canister filter I have hooked up right now as well and bought a small powerhead to maximize good flow. I have a T5HO light with moonlight on order so still stock aquarium light for now. I'm wondering though if this to much filtration and or to much flow. Is it worth having both the surface skimming filter and the Fluval 205 filter running at the same time? Should I drop the surface skimmer filter and get a protien skimmer?

Here is a pic of the flow in my tank,in the right circle is the surface skimmer filter, the left circle is going into the fluval 205 canister filter, is this to much filtration?
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Do you know anything about cycling a tank? If not, stop adding anything to the tank and read up on it.
I want to stress this. You are in for alot of trouble if you dont cycle your tank. All other points are moot till this is done.
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