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Old 12-14-2010, 12:55 AM   #31
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I've never understood why a basic siphon won't work for you.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:01 AM   #32
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Siphons are basic physics. They work for everyone, anywhere. Even in Nevada. Good luck with your tank.
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Siphons are basic physics. They work for everyone, anywhere. Even in Nevada. Good luck with your tank.
Apparently, not for everyone -- look back through past posts and you'll see a handful of members that mentioned problems with my specific Top Fin model.

I thank you for your luck wishes.

I am most likely going to give up on the tank -- it just wasn't meant to be for me.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:46 AM   #34
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Apparently, not for everyone -- look back through past posts and you'll see a handful of members that mentioned problems with my specific Top Fin model.
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And if you look back at my past post, you'll see I'm talking about a basic siphon... not your specific Top Fin model. A basic siphon consists of a piece of tubing and that's it. Your lungs get it started and a bucket is handy to catch the water.

Perhaps you're right about giving it up. Hobbies are supposed to be relaxing. This doesn't seem to be the case in your situation.
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And if you look back at my past post, you'll see I'm talking about a basic siphon... not your specific Top Fin model. A basic siphon consists of a piece of tubing and that's it. Your lungs get it started and a bucket is handy to catch the water.
Okay, but I was talking about the issues I've been having with the Top Fin model; I hadn't tried any other variations...

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Perhaps you're right about giving it up. Hobbies are supposed to be relaxing. This doesn't seem to be the case in your situation.
This has been the furthest thing from relaxing to us -- how could constantly checking water conditions and chemistry, carrying buckets, looking for cloudy water status, making sure goldfish don't explode from overfeeding, toping off evaporated water levels, looking for algae crawling all over rather expensive ornaments, checking for strange odors, making sure tap water doesn't get into the filters to destroy so called "BB," checking water temperature, turning off filters and heaters and lights to drain for water changes just to turn everything back on again with equipment malfunctioning, splashes of filthy tank water all over expensive carpeting, crusty dirty salt deposits all over tank edges and cords, constantly worrying about water conditions and needing to drag out test kits every other day, wiping slime and gunk off glass tops from evaporation, praying that filter media doesn't get clogged too quick so you don't have to replace or swish it around in removed tank water and the systematic observance of a breakdown in fish's health after you went through all that be considered "relaxing?"

You really got me there...
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Then I guess it isn't for you.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:57 AM   #37
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Gee...ya think?

In all honesty, Kurt, I don't find any of what I just outlined relaxing in the most extreme sense of the term -- if you do, or others who are **** deep into this hobby do, well, I just don't know what to say. Worrying about this tank on a daily basis just doesn't warrant being a "relaxing hobby" to me; I can't even enjoy the fish because something is constantly going wrong with the hardware and/or biosystem within it.

How can that possibly define "relaxing"...
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