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Old 08-30-2004, 06:52 PM   #11
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TG...Thats certainly a good point, that had'nt dawned on me. Exactly why I posted this thread. Plumbing the CO2 into a pair of canister intakes would really mix the CO2 into the tank well, especially with a good reactor. I could see were CO2 would be lost in a wet/dry. Seems like a sump would need more CO2 output to manage both the tank and sump.

Anyone know if sumps or wet/drys waste much CO2? PH swings are something I really don't want to have to fight.

A diatom sounds like it would be a benifit. If you have several tanks. The cost per tank really is'nt that bad over the long run. Seeing how you only need one diatom filter. Could be just as handy as having a python.
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Old 08-30-2004, 07:22 PM   #12
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Here's a link to a DIY PVC canister filter. DIY would save you some money. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/v...ic.php?t=52761

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Old 08-30-2004, 09:29 PM   #13
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Standard cannister filters are great for smaller tanks. But once you go to that 6' length it's hard to beat an Ocean Clear. You can move up to 1000 gallons per hour though one of them with no problem. You can get them with built in UV. They come in several models. And for a plant tank where the primary concern is mechanical filtration they can't be beat.

Another good method for larger tanks is the Lifegard filter system.

With either one of these you can do your own plumbing and not have to worry about hoses kinking.
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I was just reading up on the Ocean Clears. That added UV looks rather interesting. Not to mention you can use a variety of pumps to target the output you want. Plus, depending on how you plumb it, you can reverse the pump flow. I still need to do more research to see if reversing the pump could be used for WC's. That would be sweet.

If you add up an Ocean Clear UV, pump, hard plumbing etc. It appears to come out cheaper than a pair of big Fluval's, XP's or Ehiem's canisters. These number were crunched on Big Al's for comparison. I'm sure it's debatable.

I'd really like to hard plumb as much as possible on a set up this big. Filters, CO2, reactors, maybe even try to plumb the heater outside the tank.

Thanks for all the help. Keep those opinions rolling in.

edit: DUHHHH you could just plumb a ball valve in with a hook up for a water hose and let the pump drain water out of the home into the flower bed or garden. To much research, brain overload 8O .
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Oh yeah - you could definitely recycle that tank water - I have friends and family who come to my door with milk jugs begging for nitrate-rich water-change water (better than Miracle-Gro) to use for their houseplants, but my big high light, planted tank has scarcely any nitrate left after the plants are done, LOL!

You can plumb your CO2 into your filter output and skip the reactor altogether. Rex has the best instructions for that.
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For my big tanks Mojo, I went with Jehmco pump for $35. I attach it to a garden hose and feed it through a window. It drains half the 125 in under 5 minutes. With so many large tanks, I couldn't imagine any other way.
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Old 08-30-2004, 11:39 PM   #17
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I know what ya mean TG. Been using spent tank water for years on my houseplants. During the hot summer months, the houseplants can never get enought water. Good thing I have four tanks to maintain.

BTW TG......I was just looking through your gallery. You have some beautiful tanks.

Brian, some sort of pump will definatly be planned into the building of a big tank for WC's. Currently my largest tank is only 40g, so a python is adequate. Also Brian, do you inject CO2 into your 125? If so, how do you keep PH swings down with such massive WC's?

Thank you all for the help.
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