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Old 08-27-2008, 12:12 PM   #11
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The hose is 14mm ID, but its a funny size, you can use 5/8" ID which is ~16mm. I just bought some smooth hose to replace my ribbed hose from Lowes. The 5/8 hose doesnt seem to fit tight inside the rubber ends but I'm not sure if the smooth hose versions even had these?

So for mine I'm going with 3/4" ID for the inlet since its syphon feed(if it will work?, otherwise 5/8"). Then 5/8" for the outlet. The hose I have doesnt bend very good so I'm using these to bend into the tank. Havent got all the parts yet.

Eheim Outlet-Tube For 400494 at Big Al's Online
Eheim Suction Pipe-Filter 2217/2017 at Big Al's Online

We shall see how it works. I hear the ribbed hose can clog easy, so this should help that as well as improve flow slightly as water doesnt like traveling through rough/bumby pipes
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:15 PM   #12
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Yup, there's the missing link..

'who knows what I have since I picked it up used.'
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:41 PM   #13
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now now be nice
It was a good deal, I got it because the last owner was having
problems with it.
I found that he had put the wrong shaft in the impeller so it was
noisy and hanging up, so i put the right shaft in as well as a new impeller cover and
now its like new..
He (the last owner) did say something about the splashing sounds bothering him
( I didnt think anything of it at the time) but i am starting to think that its got the
wrong nozzle too.

I looked at the instructions that came with the thing and i was wrong it shows the smooth
hose as well as what looks like a output nozzle that has a longer tube on it.
In the parts list it shows a part number A-20000
I looked on line at another parts manual and it shows a part number of what looks
like the shorter tube nozzle like what i have and whats shown on the link above
as part number A - 20001.
now i looked all over the place and i cant find a replacment part with this part number.
going to have to make a couple phone calles to see if i can figure this out.
I am sure once I get this last problem sorted it will be a good setup.
for now i just removed the nozzle, I am very impressed how quiet it is.

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Old 08-27-2008, 12:54 PM   #14
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ok after doing more looking around i see that both the A-20000 and 20001 have the same length tube on the nozzle. guess the picture in the instructions that i have
is just wrong.
If anyone knows if there is a nozzle with a longer tube to get the opening of the nozzle
farther down in the tank let me know the part number.
you would think that there should be such a item, what would the owner of a tank with
a tall rim do?
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:25 PM   #15
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take the part w/ you to Lowes/HD/LFS and just find one that fits. Cut to size.. and your golden
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:31 PM   #16
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do you have the wrong "rim adapter" as thats all I can see, the only replacement that I saw was for the 104/204.

Other than that I see just using the tubing and these if you have them, and get rid of the "rim adapter" as it severely limits your inlet/outlet placement anyway. You would also need correct suction cups to hole it in place.
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...wfor304404hose
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i think i have the answer to this problem with out having to change to much.
will post back how it goes.
I also contacted hagen directly will be interesting what kind of reply i get from them.
more later
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just an update to anyone who was watching.
the reply I received from hagen was a joke they were no help at all, thought I would
give them a chance.
I didn't have to change anything on my setup at all I just added one simple part.
I was going to buy the spray bar kit but found a replacement spray bar tube
at big al's. Its the same length as the pickup tube, matches everything nicely looks
good and creates a calm current and no noise at all.
I have to say the 404 is very very quiet the sound of the spray bar is more noticeable
than the pump itself.
cost for the tube was under 5 dollars.
thanks for all the replies and help.
later

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