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Old 02-14-2005, 08:04 PM   #11
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thank you very much..I already returned the filters but I found a fluval 404 for $149.can and am going to go get it right now...I have only 9 fish to put in right now so it should do. When I add more fish I could go get an Aquclear 500 if needed.

I would still like to know if pond filters would work..just out of curiosity.
There are many different types and prices..You never know
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:19 PM   #12
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Look how many fish i have... my fluval does the job wonderfully
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:20 PM   #13
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oh yeah the fluval islike 99 on big als
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1 white cloud danio, 1 tiny CAE,
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2 giant danio. 1 large tinfoil barb, 1 rosy barb, 1 marbled goby,
1 purple spotted gudgeon, 1 jade goby, 1 red dwarf gouromi, 2 clown loaches,4 tiger barbs, 5 weather loaches, 3 blood parrots,1 firemouth cichlid, 1 goldfish, 1 Electric yellow cichlid, 1 Auratus cichlid, 1 Zebra Tilapia cichlid,
1 Yellowfin Borleyi cichlid, 1 purple peacock cichlid, 2 striped barbs, 1 figure 8 puffer, 1 electric catfish, 1 african butterfly fish
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:42 AM   #14
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I use 15-30 times an hour I guess im in the over kill department
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:38 AM   #15
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You also have to look at the type of filtration.
A canister filter will generally do a much better job at cleaning the water since it is forced through the media. Once inside the canister there is nowhere for the water to go but through the media. If your media is dirty and plugged you will still get water forced through it but you will have a slower discharge rate.
An hob,on the other hand, will have some water bypass the media because there are no physical constraints to force it through the media. So the water will take the path of least resistance and some will bypass the media while some will go through the media unless it is real dirty or clogged.
So when I look at filtration rates I like to suggest 4-5x turnover for canister filters and 10x for hob filters
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:15 PM   #16
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Thats why with HOB filters in my 55, and a custom canister of only a bit more gph in a 125, the water quality in my 125 is many times better.

I have a 950gph pump for the 125 that is putting out about 400-500gph with the filter hooked up. My 55 had about 300-400gph with two HOB filters and the water wasn't nearly as clean.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:36 PM   #17
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Flow rate is just that how many gallons per hour it will pump unobstructed however
once you add filter material it lowers some and as it clogs it does a more effiecent job of filtering however the flow(GPH) also decreases-Anne
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