Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > General Aquarium Forums > General Hardware/Equipment Discussion
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 03-23-2010, 09:28 PM   #1
is back to save the day!
 
Zer0's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 3,194
Glass Holes Kit

Has anyone used any of these kits before? Their prices are actually pretty good, and since it looks pretty simple and comes with instructions, i think i want to do a sump. Just so i can have more space for my tank, and put a fuge in there and all that good stuff.

So my question is.. for my 25G Rimless Cube, which has the dimensions of 18x18x18, what size glass holes kit should i purchase? The Nano Complete Kit? Or the 700gph Overflow Kit. I honestly haven't the slightest clue on what size overflow i should have for this size tank, but i'm pretty set on setting up a sump for it. So any help would be appreciated.

Here's the site: Complete Overflow Kits - Glass-Holes.com dope aquarium stuff

Thanks.
__________________

__________________
Thanks.
-Kevin
Zer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 09:32 PM   #2
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
Never personally used them, but am convinced that if I ever do a non-RR tank again that I will.

For such a small tank, I'd use their nano kit (front page on the link you showed). It provides for a 1" bulkhead, which gives you almost 600gph. I don't think I'd run that much of a return pump, but you'd have the capability in the overflow in case you wanted to.

If you did run it all the way at 600 though, that'd be all the flow you need (might want to split the output to 2 or more outlets though)
__________________

__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 09:37 PM   #3
is back to save the day!
 
Zer0's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 3,194
Nice! Thanks neilanh! You always help me in the equipment section.

I think the best part is though.. is that my tank won't be any higher than 4ft total.. so finding a return pump that will factor in the head loss should be easy. I may even have one already. Just need to find the proper fittings.

Also, for the return pipe, should i use hose? Or would i be able to use PVC piping just like you would for the overflow?
__________________
Thanks.
-Kevin
Zer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 10:03 PM   #4
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
You can do either. I have a bit more head height, but I actually did both.

I use rubber hose right at the output of the pump. This allows for some flexibility and because it's rubber it also absorbs the vibration coming out of the pump. I then used a barb and converted to PVC to give me a straight up run to the tank, then 2 90° to jump the lip of the tank.

You can use rubber hose for the whole run if you can get it to work. It's hard to make hose of that size make the 180 turn accross the top lip of the tank.

If you do use PVC, do like I did and use at least a small section of hose between the pump and the PVC to absorb the vibration - otherwise the PVC will translate all the vibration against the back of your tank and/or the lip. Not an issue per se, just noisy.
__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 10:06 PM   #5
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
Here, you can kinda see what I'm talking about. This is my sump setup. The return pump is bottom right. There's a few feet of 1/2" rubber hose, then you see where it converts to PVC right below the top deck of the stand.

__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 10:39 PM   #6
is back to save the day!
 
Zer0's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 3,194
Nice, i see what you mean exactly. I have a question though.. how come you have so many pipes? Could i just run one PVC pipe from the overflow down to the sump? Or do i have to have a network of pipes like you do..
__________________
Thanks.
-Kevin
Zer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 10:53 PM   #7
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
my overflow has 2 outlets (2 1" bulkheads for a total of 1200gph). In addition to that, I split one of the outlets to feed my fuge, which is a separate tank (it's to the right, not in the pic) then the one long horizontal pipe is the overflow from the fuge feeding back into the sump all the way on the left.

So no, you don't need all that, it's just the way I have my system setup
__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 11:35 PM   #8
is back to save the day!
 
Zer0's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 3,194
Oh alright haha. Still, that sounds like a sweet setup. I'll be trying to cram everything in to a 10G.. so i might not have the luxury of a fuge. I'll see what i can fit in there. Do you think it would be possible for me to make one half of the 10G the area for the heaters and the return pump, and then the other half the fuge? Would the flow be too intense for a fuge on such a small tank? I could put a couple baffles to try and slow the flow down.. but do you think it would still be too much? If so.. what other size tank do you think would be a good choice? The stand i'm going to build is 20x20.. so i'm guessing i'll only have around 19 inches to work with under the stand.

Eh.. idk. I'm thinking maybe i will make the return pump/heater section of the 10G a quarter of the tank, and then have 75% of the tank dedicated to the fuge.
__________________
Thanks.
-Kevin
Zer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 11:48 PM   #9
Sliced Bread
 
neilanh's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 8,482
you can do either way. Be careful making the return section too small... wherever your return section is will be where you see the effects of evaporation, so if it's too small the water level will drop really quickly - don't let your pump run dry.

You're right, it's a lot of stuff to cram into a 10g. While nice, they're not necessary so perhaps you hold off... or consider a HOB fuge
__________________
~Neilan
In the DC Metro Area? Check out GWAPA and WAMAS
neilanh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2010, 12:00 AM   #10
is back to save the day!
 
Zer0's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 3,194
Yeah, that's true.. it might just be too small. Would making the fuge smaller be an option too? I mean.. the fuge would be nothing spectacular.. but is there a size limit on how small you could make it? Sorry for all the questions, i'm just copying all this down so i can refer back to it when i start the tank.
__________________

__________________
Thanks.
-Kevin
Zer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
glass, holes

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
glass-holes 1500gph overflow $75+shipping jrp1588 Archive 0 02-23-2010 06:03 PM
Drilling holes in glass yohann976 General Hardware/Equipment Discussion 6 10-01-2009 03:06 PM
FW Newbie : Aqueon (All-Glass) 55 kit crabby New Acquisitions 10 08-20-2008 02:51 PM
Need someone knowledegable about glass and drilling holes Civicman86 General Hardware/Equipment Discussion 3 01-20-2007 06:23 AM
All-Glass MegaFlow Kit sevise Saltwater Reef Aquaria 2 09-14-2004 12:37 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.