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Old 02-12-2004, 09:26 PM   #11
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10x is fine, and you would probably want a bit higher than that in the 55g for Cichlids, and maybe a bit lower in the 25g hex for the Angels. With most HOBs, you can turn down the flow rate, so it is OK if you go a bit overboard and then need to turn it down a bit. Plus a large filter that you turn down will have much more media area than a smaller one running full speed.

Right now my 26g has about a 12->13x turnover and everything is fine.

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Old 02-12-2004, 11:00 PM   #12
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For canisters - I'd like to second Grimlocks suggestion for one of the more popular brands - I replaced an old Ehiem about a year ago on a 55 fresh I have, with a rena fillstar XP3 - I am so shocked that this actually worked out because I have been a long time fan of eheims (still believe they are great filters).

The things Ehiems always did well was filtering and silience - but they were a pain to service. The filstar does all three very well. Not only that but it's cheap. For a 55 definitely go with the large xp3, for the few extra bucks it really works great. After I do a water change and general clean-up in the tank you can't see through the muck (very old tank - been running for about 10 years) the filstar has it polished in about an hour.

I'd stay away from HOB - if you like them for the ability to quickly load stuff, then switch to a Fluval submerisable and leave it hanging arround.


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Old 02-12-2004, 11:07 PM   #13
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Tom, now I'm totally rethinking this, lol. I'm thinking about going with canisters only and leaving it at that. And as I watch the price add up I'm asking myself how often a heater goes out...? I've never had that problem, and I know it could happen. I wonder if I shouldn't just get one good heater per tank though. Even with wattage difference they basically cost the same amount, so getting two doubles the price.
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Old 02-13-2004, 03:15 AM   #14
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Re: I need heater/filter recommendations :)

if they were my tanks:

55g: filstar xp3, won pro 200w
38g: emporor 280, VisiTherm 150w (current)
25g: penguin 170, ebo jager 75w
20g: penguin 125, ebo jager 75w
10g: penguin 125, ebo jager 50w

my reasoning:
6x turn over: in my tanks, seems to work good for me, no problems yet. the only reason for the 125 on the 10g is that i dont like the mini.
3w/g: my tanks stay plenty warm, 5 seems a bit like overkill.

a sponge prefilter on the intake should make any hob or canister fry safe id think.


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