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Old 08-09-2011, 10:16 AM   #1
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I want to replace my filtering system...

I have a 37-gallon planted tank that has a filtering system built into the hood. It includes a pump that pushes water up into a trough that contains the filter. The water is supposed to flow through the filter, through a slot into another area with a bio-wheel before going out through directional outlets back into the tank.

I like the idea of the biowheel but the problem is with the filters. They seem to clog up quickly and the water starts going over the filter and through the overflow slot to the biowheel. This system seems very inefficient at filtering the water. I'm not having problems with the water at this time (tested at 0 ammo, 0 nitrites, 0 nitrates this past weekend) but I do travel quite a bit and dont want to have little or no filtering for weeks at a time. I have someone that will feed the fish while I'm gone but beyond that I don't expect them to mess with it.

I am looking for suggestions to replace the filtering system besides the old HOB systems. I dont have enough room to move the tank away from the wall without interfering with a door plus I like the way the hood looks with the lighting.

Anyone have any ideas on how to change the filtering without screwing up the hood and lights?

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A canister filter could work
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A canister filter could work
+1 ... Fluval (model 305), Rena and eheim all good brands.
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Check out Penn Plax's Cascade line canisters as well.
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I just ordered my first Eheim. It's an Ecco 2232 based on many positive reviews. Got it for $80 or so online. Under $ 100 w shipping from Roxie's Pet Den.
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:48 PM   #6
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Thanks everyone... I was wondering about those... I have never used one, so my research is on! Thanks again!
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Ok.... I've been searching the lowdown on the different brands... All of them have mixed reviews... Knowing people like I do I would attribute many of the bad reports more to not following the instructions than anything else... Yes, a couple of them had physical problems, but it seems more likely bad setups... Looking at the specs of the filters it looks like the Fluval 205 or the Cascade 1000 would work for my needs...

I noticed that some say not to have the intake near anything that produces air bubbles... that makes sense to me considering the noise that would cause and possible damage to the filter motor or impeller...

Do these filters cause enough agitation to keep the water oxygenated or is that even an issue? Is the spray bar a better choice than just the outflow?

Just wondering....
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Looking at the specs of the filters it looks like the Fluval 205 or the Cascade 1000 would work for my needs...

I noticed that some say not to have the intake near anything that produces air bubbles... that makes sense to me considering the noise that would cause and possible damage to the filter motor or impeller...

Do these filters cause enough agitation to keep the water oxygenated or is that even an issue? Is the spray bar a better choice than just the outflow?

Just wondering....
I have an air-stone fairly close to the intake of my 404 and it's fine ... the suction is not so powerful that bubbles just get sucked in. As for agitation, you can aim the output up towards the surface to create agitation.

IMO ... If your looking at the Fluval 205 ... I'd say with your size tank, step up to the 305. Granted it's a bit more $$$, but it's GPH with your tank puts it at just under 5x filtration ... and more experienced members have recommended filtration to be 5x or more your tank's volume.
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It looks like my new filtering will have to wait for now. I hope my tank will be okay. I cleaned out the filter again and told the person that is watching my tanks how to clean it if necessary while I am gone.

Going out of town tomorrow to visit family on the left coast and won't be back until Sept 4th.

I will keep looking while I travel and was wondering about the media. It looks like there are several options including carbon packets (I thought we weren't supposed to use carbon except to remove meds), ceramic rings, some odd looking plastic balls and some things that look like nasty peas.

I know I can use any or all of the different types, but is there a 'preferred' mix I should get to set this up when I finally get it?
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I will keep looking while I travel and was wondering about the media. It looks like there are several options including carbon packets (I thought we weren't supposed to use carbon except to remove meds), ceramic rings, some odd looking plastic balls and some things that look like nasty peas.

I know I can use any or all of the different types, but is there a 'preferred' mix I should get to set this up when I finally get it?
Most filters are basically Carbon (chemical) , Floss (mechanical) and something to grow your (biological) Beneficial Bacteria on.

The weird rings, balls, etc are to provide surface area for your good bacteria. Your filter pads or floss also grow it.

I currently am running small planted tanks. I'm told I can skip Carbon and use cheap batting from fabric stores. Since I rinse my Floss with tank water I don't replace it unless I have to. So monthly costs are nil to not much.

I am currently running HOB filters. But my first Eheim canister arrives soon.

Just remember don't over clean any filter. Don't change all of it at once or you lose a bunch of your Ben. Bacteria.
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