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Old 01-04-2010, 04:29 PM   #11
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As said earlier, LED for reef tanks is still kinda in the "testing the waters" stage. It's not that it isn't doable, but I think people/companies are kind of waiting things out after the Solaris fiasco. I won't rehash the issues, but in a nutshell, PFO came out with their Solaris LED fixtures. Early generations had their share of issues, but things seemed to be getting better when they got hit with a patent infringement lawsuit. Ended up shutting them down and probably (just guessing) put the brakes on others that were looking to commercially develop the concept.

For me, I'd be very hesitant buying LED technology right now because I wouldn't want to end up with an obsolete fixture that I laid out a bunch of cash for, made by a company that isn't around anymore. I feel for the folks that laid out the big $$ for the Solaris fixtures.

You seem pretty set on getting an LED fixture, but just be aware that the LED lighting playingfield seems like a slippery thing these days.
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As said earlier, LED for reef tanks is still kinda in the "testing the waters" stage. It's not that it isn't doable, but I think people/companies are kind of waiting things out after the Solaris fiasco. I won't rehash the issues, but in a nutshell, PFO came out with their Solaris LED fixtures. Early generations had their share of issues, but things seemed to be getting better when they got hit with a patent infringement lawsuit. Ended up shutting them down and probably (just guessing) put the brakes on others that were looking to commercially develop the concept.

For me, I'd be very hesitant buying LED technology right now because I wouldn't want to end up with an obsolete fixture that I laid out a bunch of cash for, made by a company that isn't around anymore. I feel for the folks that laid out the big $$ for the Solaris fixtures.

You seem pretty set on getting an LED fixture, but just be aware that the LED lighting playingfield seems like a slippery thing these days.
The manufacturers are not marketing them as aquarium LED fixtures but Growth fixtures. I'm ordering my LED fixtures this week, even though it will pretty costly but so are the electric bills and the fact if I don't get the LED's I'll wind up having to buy a chiller this coming spring. I look at it like this, it will be a wash and I also like having the ability to change the intensity, Kelvin rating, on/off duration, cloud cover and a hole host of other options with out having to change ballasts or bulbs. It's a +++ in my eyes.
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:48 PM   #13
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After talking to a couple of my LFS and reading online, it seems the problem with the Solaris was an infringment on the controller if I understood correctly.

I think the way the new companies are getting around this is either, 1. they are using a proprietary controller or 2. they use no controller at all, just on/off.

Since searching here and other forums I've come up with at least half a dozen companies in the States that sell them. It seems to be the main issue is the end users aren't buying them because they're all still waiting on someone else to buy one to see if they work, at least IMO that's what the main holdup is, well, that and the initial price.

My reasons for wanting LED is:
1. Little/no heat generation, therefore no need for a chiller
2. Durability - my little monster isn't likely to break the solid state lights
3. Energy consumption - There's just no argument from anyone on this

And since I'm in the planning/purchasing phase, I don't need it right this minute to sustain what's in the tank. I need it to sustain what WILL BE in the tank at some point. It just seems to be a plus all around for me. I just can't tell my wife how much I'm spending on it or I might be using it for a night lite in the dog house... but then again she's the one that got me into this hobby and now I'm addicted...
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:46 PM   #14
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I believe it was actually the label of the device "LED Aquarium Lighting" not the controller. Lighting is now being marketed as LED lighting not LED Aquarium Lighting. Check out this thread at Manhattan reefs regarding the pacific sun led fixtures, read all of the pages it's worth it. PacificSun LED Lighting Pics & Feedback - Manhattan Reefs
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:12 PM   #15
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The cheapest brand of high quality LED lighting would be Maxspect lighting. The other brand which has been around a while is Aquailluminations lighting. The Maxspects are available in different wattages. They only however run on 220V currently. Aquailluminations lighting have controllers which can do many effects throughout the day.
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I looked at the AI system, but it's still at least $1250 for the smallest setup, which is out of my price range.

I'm hoping to have more to say on the Ecoxotic light here in a few months. It's gonna be at least a month until I can save enough cash to buy it.

Than being said, after I buy it, I think that's my last MAJOR hurdle to the beginning of me cycling my tank. I'm planning for an extra long cycle as I plan to buy less live rock and more base rock. We'll see how it turns out.
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Actually... you don't need any lighting to start cycling the tank. In fact, many folks don't use their lighting during the cycle to minimize algae.
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Well, I'll put it to you this way - If I don't buy it now, before I buy anything else, I'm likely to spend the money on something else and not have it for a much needed light when the other components can wait.

That being said... I'd like to give a swift kick in the tail to whoever mentioned the Pacificsun LED ... looks like I'm gonna try to save another couple hundred bucks and get that one. Too many features not to like.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:31 PM   #20
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Check out this site on the Pacific Sun lighting.ę Pacific Sun USA
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