aquarium advice logo

Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium & Reef Forum > General Aquarium Forums > General Hardware/Equipment Discussion
Portal Register Forums Articles Gallery Reviews Sponsors FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-10-2006, 07:18 PM   #1
xxnonamexx
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: New York
Posts: 358
xxnonamexx has fishy dreams
Mag 12 for a 55gal? SCWD jammed?

I am going to make a closed loop for my 55 [acronym:1408559691="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:1408559691] to eliminate my 3 powerheads inside. What do you think about the MAG 12 that I purchased for it since it states it pumps 1200gph which is what is supposed to be normal for a 55gal reef? Is this going to be toooo much flow? I have ball valves if needed to slow it down. Also the SCWD wavemaker my friend used and it jammed up has anyone else experienced trouble with it? Thanks
xxnonamexx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 07:22 PM   #2
MadManMac
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 424
Images: 16
MadManMac has fishy dreams
Depending on how far the water has to pump, you will not get all 1200 [acronym:07b519f602="Gallons per hour"]gph[/acronym:07b519f602], but the mag 12 is pretty strong up to 5 feet. I use two of them, one for return and one for my skimmer. I have a SCWD on my return as well and it functions fine. I have had to take it off before and clean it with hot water and vinegar. Other than that it has been fine. Post some pics, I am looking to get my 5 MJ-1200's out of the tank and replace them with a closed loop, so I am really interested when people get these things to work well.
__________________
Hook'em Horns!
MadManMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 08:12 PM   #3
Brenden
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Piedmont, NC
Posts: 3,876
Images: 32
Brenden has fishy dreams
Be aware that a mag 12 will heat your water up a good bit. I used mag 12's in 45 [acronym:427fdb6509="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:427fdb6509] trashcans to make water and if it ran more than 24 hours it would get the water to hot. Madmanmac I have no [acronym:427fdb6509="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:427fdb6509]'s in my tank. I have 8 locline nozzles that are ran buy a closed loop and 3 nozzles from my return pump.
__________________
*The fact that no one understands you doesn't make you an artist.
*If guns kill people...Spoons make Michael Moore fat.
Brenden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 09:13 PM   #4
MadManMac
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 424
Images: 16
MadManMac has fishy dreams
That is exactly the way I want to go, closed loop with an external pump and no powerheads. I too use a mag drive for making water and it actually takes the place of the heater as well, so for that I like it.
__________________
Hook'em Horns!
MadManMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 09:22 PM   #5
steve r
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: kenosha wisconsin
Posts: 653
steve r has fishy dreams
i use a mag 12 on the return for my 75g. and a SCWD. i used to use a quiet one 3000 for the return on my 29 with a SCWD. i find myself cleanig the SCWD much more often with the mag 12. probably just a volume thing. more water = more debris. i also dont have a heat problem with the mag 12 in my sump.

steve r
__________________
75g RR. 2x250 14k [acronym="Metal halide light"]MH[/acronym] / 2x54 T5 act. 29g sump. ASM G1X skimmer. phosban reactor. 80lbs [acronym="Live sand"]LS[/acronym], 90lbs [acronym="Live rock"]LR[/acronym], 2x seio M620.
kole tang, bicolor angel, mandarin dragonette, ocellaris clown / BTA , cleaner shrimp, 2x peppermint shrimp, a variety of soft, [acronym="Small Polyped Stoney"]SPS[/acronym], and [acronym="Large polyped Scleractinian (stoney) coral"]LPS[/acronym] corals, orange linckia star.
steve r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 10:25 PM   #6
fishfreek
Aquarium Advice FINatic
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 971
Images: 82
fishfreek has fishy dreams
Send a message via ICQ to fishfreek Send a message via AIM to fishfreek Send a message via MSN to fishfreek Send a message via Yahoo to fishfreek
The mag12 will not push 1200GPH at 5' head nor will it push what its rated to push at 5' head if a SCWD is in line before that height.

[acronym:2e54431fd8="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:2e54431fd8] you should use the foam filter that comes with the mag pumps and that should cut down on the detrius thats going thru the SCWD significantly.

I have found the SCWD to lower pump output by as much as 20% due to the added ristance of making the ouptuts switch.
__________________
Remember dont tap the glass, your fish will think you're an idiot -Anonymous mother

Check out our articles area. 30+ Aquatic articles for your enjoyment
Are you in or around the Shenandoah Valley area? If so click here to join our regional forum.
Looking for affordable web hosting? Look no more We have the answer
Learn more about Coral Reef Conservation.
Free photo hosting
fishfreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 10:48 PM   #7
xxnonamexx
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: New York
Posts: 358
xxnonamexx has fishy dreams
I will be using the MAG 12 externally for the mag pump. I will eliminate my 3 powerheads. The pump will be on the top of the stand on the side so about 18" up into the tank. I think I will not use the SCWD. I should have plenty flow for my corals. I just want to make sure a Mag 12 isn't too much for a 55gal.
xxnonamexx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2006, 10:52 PM   #8
fishfreek
Aquarium Advice FINatic
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 971
Images: 82
fishfreek has fishy dreams
Send a message via ICQ to fishfreek Send a message via AIM to fishfreek Send a message via MSN to fishfreek Send a message via Yahoo to fishfreek
Wont be to much for the 55. I take it you still plan on splitting the return in half to hve flows on either end.

I dont understand what you say by having the pump at the top of the stand with it only being 18" up to the top of the tank. Is that where you sump is? How is water being put into the pump?
__________________
Remember dont tap the glass, your fish will think you're an idiot -Anonymous mother

Check out our articles area. 30+ Aquatic articles for your enjoyment
Are you in or around the Shenandoah Valley area? If so click here to join our regional forum.
Looking for affordable web hosting? Look no more We have the answer
Learn more about Coral Reef Conservation.
Free photo hosting
fishfreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
scwd necessary? pufferman Saltwater Reef Aquaria 2 07-14-2005 10:33 PM
the scwd iwantareef16 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 4 02-26-2005 12:51 AM
SCWD steve r Saltwater Reef Aquaria 4 01-06-2005 09:02 PM
OK..what's a SCWD? Brad Saltwater & Reef - Archive 21 11-07-2004 10:51 AM
SCWD Salt4Us Saltwater & Reef - Archive 1 04-25-2003 09:54 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:44 PM.



Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement - Airstream Trailer - Aquarium Forum - Royal Forum - Book Forum - Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum - Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Fiberglass RV Forum - RV Forum - Truck Conversion - U2 Music Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0