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Old 01-18-2014, 11:27 AM   #21
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Hey Paul, are they your tanks in the video's you posted??
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:57 AM   #22
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Hey Paul, are they your tanks in the video's you posted??
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The videos on the photobucket account (same handle Paul1792) are mine. They were taken months ago (before I even used a pre-filter on the Aqua-Tech). The 29 gallon tank video is obviously incomplete .... but for some reason, I cannot upload any more videos to Photobucket with my free membership. Maybe I should pay.
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The videos on the photobucket account (same handle Paul1792) are mine. They were taken months ago (before I even used a pre-filter on the Aqua-Tech). The 29 gallon tank video is obviously incomplete .... but for some reason, I cannot upload any more videos to Photobucket with my free membership. Maybe I should pay.
Very Nice Tank
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Old 01-18-2014, 12:54 PM   #24
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You may want to re-measure, Mike !!!!!
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First, here is a picture of the C3 and a C4 running side by side. I took this when I ran both of them next to each other on my 29 gallon tank before moving the C3 to my 38 gallon tank.

http://s948.photobucket.com/user/Pau...cecb8.jpg.html

The C4 measures 8 and 5/16" along the back of the tank.
The C3 runs just a tad over 7" along the back of the tank.

The top back of the C4 is 2 and 1/2" above the rim of the tank.
The top back of the C3 is just under 2" above the rim of the thank.

I have an Aqueon brand 38 gallon tank that sits on a stand against a wall in the living room. The rim 3 & 3/4 from the wall. The glass is 3 & 7/8 inches from the wall. I tried to fit the C4 that is now on my 29 gallon on the 38 gallon but it would have made an ever so slight indentation in the wall if I tried to cram it in there so I ordered a second C3 rather than a C4.

In the end, I like having the twin C3's next to each other for "good looks." But really no big deal. Though the cost of the C3 and C4 were about equal due tot $7 extension tube needed on the C3, I just didn't want to tear down the tank to move it 1/4 inch.

The "factory" mechanical debris reducing and polishing pad are one unit. On the C3 it measures just under 5" x 5" or just under 25 square inches. On the C4, it measures just over 5 & 1/2" x 6 & 1/4 inches or just about 35 square inches.

I don't use the factory media. The polishing pad is more like 150 microns and just doesn't go "all the way" for "diamond studded" clarity of the water. Accordingly, I use cut to fit Acurel Debris reducing pad + AquaticLife 100 Micron Non-Woven Filter (polishing) pad for "canister style" results.

Many people say you can just use floss in an aqua clear and get crystal water with that "fish swimming in air" look. That is actually correct .... but there is clearly a step above that. When I had only the C3 & AquaClear 50 with floss running next to each other, the water lost its "edge" in a few days from when I removed the Aqua-Tech 30-60. As a result, I had to run the Aqua-Tech (temporarily on the front of the tank) ...... so the water was flowing about 600 gph of flow in my tanks just to feed my obsession with having "conversation piece" sparkling clear aquarium water. Two C3's in tandem handle it well..... The AC/50 is running on 1/3 flow just for BB & backup.

You're right Paul. I remeasured, I was using my wife's sewing tape measure which has a messed up end so I started on the 1" mark and didn't subtract it from the measurement when I posted.
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Paul thx for all of the details...very helpful!! And that is a very nice tank you have!

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You're right Paul. I remeasured, I was using my wife's sewing tape measure which has a messed up end so I started on the 1" mark and didn't subtract it from the measurement when I posted.
that kind of thing happens to me all the time!

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I didn't realize there is an option for paid membership! What would you say the advantages are?
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A bigger Avatar, more space for Albums/Pictures, NO ads, A Signature, 10,000(I think) PMs. I think that's most of them. Oh and it helps cover the cost of running such a big forum. There is a post about the advantages, i'll have a look for it and get back to you....
Thx for the link Ian. I am now a supporter. Ability to turn off ads and just supporting the forum is worth it alone. Everything else is a bonus!!


So back to the topic of filtration. Unfortunately at 7-8" the C3 or C4 is too wide for my set-up. I have limited space for equipment sine my tank is a bow front and 2/3 of the cover is glass. So I would have to reposition the intake or outflow of the canister which I don't really want to do. So what do you think of adding and internal filter? Something like a Fluval U3 or U4? I could position this behind my rock wall or even temporarily in the front of the tank just to polish the water. Thoughts?
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Thx for the link Ian. I am now a supporter. Ability to turn off ads and just supporting the forum is worth it alone. Everything else is a bonus!!


So back to the topic of filtration. Unfortunately at 7-8" the C3 or C4 is too wide for my set-up. I have limited space for equipment sine my tank is a bow front and 2/3 of the cover is glass. So I would have to reposition the intake or outflow of the canister which I don't really want to do. So what do you think of adding and internal filter? Something like a Fluval U3 or U4? I could position this behind my rock wall or even temporarily in the front of the tank just to polish the water. Thoughts?
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I think you are on the right track. I know about zero about canisters. All that matters is that you find a solution to your own issues.

The most important thing is that you realize your problem is caused by "dead spots" as the result of your all natural environment. I say ........ "go with your gut." You have the "low flow to certain areas" problem isolated ........ so how you solve it is up to you to be creative based on your own aquascape. You don't need to ask permission from forum members to do what you think will work.

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I run a 406 and a 306 on 'y 55 gallon (I know it's a lot but I like to keep a well overstocked tank). I also have a 850korla circular pump that helps out a lot. It gets all the small stuff to the intakes
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I run a 406 and a 306 on 'y 55 gallon (I know it's a lot but I like to keep a well overstocked tank). I also have a 850korla circular pump that helps out a lot. It gets all the small stuff to the intakes
Now that's what I call filtration!! I hadn't even thought of a circular pump!! Thx for the idea!
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Now that's what I call filtration!! I hadn't even thought of a circular pump!! Thx for the idea!
I had a U2 Fluval on my 12g and I thought they were such a pain to clean. Every time you need to clean them, you remove the pads and all the gunk falls into the tank, making a mess. So frustrating, plus they take up a LOT of room and imo are unsightly. As Paul said it's your call but I would go with a smaller HOB and use floss only in it or a circulation pump.....
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