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Old 07-18-2006, 11:45 AM   #11
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Well I've got a 55 gallon that i got used over a year ago. The seals on the tank are starting to come loose inside the tank so I've got everything that I would need for that setup without purchasing additional equipment. I just needed to know about the quality of it.
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Old 07-18-2006, 01:15 PM   #12
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My Petsmart has 2 options.

Top Fin Tank with Hood & Lights
Top Fin Start Kit with Tank, Hood, Lights, Filter & Heater and some chemcials I think (dechlor)

Unfortunately, they don't sell just the tank, thats what I want. I want to customize my tank and I don't want to buy their light hoods which probably don't even support high wattage bulbs.
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:17 PM   #13
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Alshain...yes i bought the 55 gal starter kit from petsmart, i just checked the light they gave me 15 W (maybe i read that, just wrong 15 watts? thats it?) flourescent light.

...so if you already have everything, you'd save on the 60 gal (good luck finding a 60 stand though, ive never seen on)

otherwise the petsmart tank works nice for me...
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:51 PM   #14
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Alshain...yes i bought the 55 gal starter kit from petsmart, i just checked the light they gave me 15 W (maybe i read that, just wrong 15 watts? thats it?) flourescent light.

...so if you already have everything, you'd save on the 60 gal (good luck finding a 60 stand though, ive never seen on)

otherwise the petsmart tank works nice for me...
No that sounds about right, which is exactly why I don't want to waste money on their light hoods. 2x 15 watt bulbs (T8 I think) gives you 30 watts which is not enough light to grow any plants at all. You need at least 45W just to get up to low light on a 55 gallon standard tank. I'd be willing to bet you can't put bulbs greater than 15W in them either.
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actually i have 3 live plants, the lights work fine for me, remember flourescent is brighter than condescent at any wattage (ex. 15W Flourescent is more brighter than 15W condescent)

i mean if you want to nuke your plants (and fish) in light, the 45W is optional

beside if you have any top feeders, they have to stare into the bright lights durring feeding, you think thats good for them?
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It should be the same length as the 55 gallon (48in) so it should fit on the stand that I currently have. I will measure it before I get it.
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actually i have 3 live plants, the lights work fine for me, remember flourescent is brighter than condescent at any wattage (ex. 15W Flourescent is more brighter than 15W condescent)

i mean if you want to nuke your plants (and fish) in light, the 45W is optional

beside if you have any top feeders, they have to stare into the bright lights durring feeding, you think thats good for them?
Actually I was basing it on Wizard~of~Oz's theory. Using his theory you would need 55 watts of incandecent lighting to equal approximately 32 watts of T8 flourecent. Basically with 30W of T8 lighting, you have 1 WPG which is considered low light. If you have 3 plants doing fine on 2 15 watt T8 bulbs in a 55 gallon tank then they are probably low light plants. I want to be able to grow high light plants. Which is why my search for a tank without spending extra on worthless (to me anyway) lighting fixtures continues
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That's a deal. Seems this particular one is a Perfecto.
A LFS had a promotion where he'd take any tank as trade in towards the purchase of a new one.
Some examples of trade-in w/o or w/ hood was
$3 for 5.5 gallon
$10 for 7 gallon bowfront w/hood
$5 for 10 gallon $5 for hood
$15 for 10 gallon hex w/hood
$15 for 20 gallon high or long $10-15 for hood
$20 for a 25 gallon $10 for hood
$25 for a 29 gallon $15 for hood
and so on
Spring clean up in my town was mid-April until mid May, 4 Mondays, 4 wards. He told me a kid traded in over $200 worth of perfectly good tanks he picked up curbside with a wheelbarrow. Mostly 10's but tanks all of these sizes he found. Amazing how much we throw away.
The kid got himself a 55 gallon, cover, light and iron stand with no cash involved, for about 20 hours work. How many other kids addicted to video games would do this?
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except for the weight when carrying it, what would be the advantages/disadvantages of glass over plastic tanks?
plastic=acrylic?
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im pretty sure thats what he meant plastic=acrylic

and does it scratch?
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