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Old 01-02-2008, 12:09 PM   #11
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Yes, I am doing it mostly by bucket brigade. I have a python, but it's slow and kludgy, partly because of my house set up. The aquaria are too far from the nearest faucet and sink. Right now, I'm rigging up a drain in the floor by the aquaria that goes to the house sump pump where it will be automatically pumped away. That should save a lot of time and effort when I get it done.

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I saw some products called "surface skimmers" that look like they are designed to take of the surface skum issue.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:57 PM   #12
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That surface scum is supposed to be harmless so you don't need to get rid of it ....

However, the only efficient way to have no scum on top is to draw water to your filter off the surface of the tank. The only way to do this is with a sump setup like the SW tanks. With an overflow & sump, you can also have a pre-filter up in your overflow, which can be easily cleaned/changed without getting your arms wet. The problem with this approach is that this will involve major modifications to your tanks. However, with multiple tanks, you can set up a single large sump to service a bank of tanks. That will cut down on maintainance, but at the expense of complicated plumbling .... plus you have to design the system right or you risk floods, etc.

BTW - no need for a drain if you can just dump the water out a window. I attach my gravel vac to a long hose that runs out a window to my flower bed. Pwc's automatically waters & ferterlizes my garden. I refill my tank with a simple hose connected to my faucet. .... no buckets!
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Old 01-02-2008, 01:05 PM   #13
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Oh yes, if you are doing the bucket brigade, I totally feel for ya. I wanted to put our 150 gal tank in our finished basement but my husband refuses because he doesn't want to have to haul buckets. It would be fine for filling but not for draining.
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Old 01-02-2008, 01:22 PM   #14
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The only efficient way to have no scum on top is to draw water to your filter off the surface of the tank. The only way to do this is with a sump setup like the SW tanks.
What about this: http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/...13892/cid/3869. Wouldn't this work? It says you connect it to your canister intake and it sucks off the scum.
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Old 01-02-2008, 01:51 PM   #15
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That small surface skimmer looks like a small PS meant for SW. It probably won't work in FW.

When I had FW tank(s) I used a product called the Meriden (sp?) water exchanger. It was a two hose in one setup. One attached to a faucet and the other went to the sink drain. It had an adjustable nozzle to create a stream of aerated water going into the tank. The rate of exchange was aprox. 3 gallons/hour. Because of the nozzle effect, chlorine was eliminated from the tap going into the tank.

I don't know if it's stll being produced but I thought it was one of the greates inventions ever for FW.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:08 PM   #16
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Nobody is calling it a protein skimmer and nobody is talking about SW in their adds. This one (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...20skimmer&Np=1) says to hook it to your canister filter. This one (http://www.amazon.com/ROLF-HAGEN-Flu...9296991&sr=8-2) is for a fluval canister and canisters are mainly not used for SW.

I don't think it's a SW PS.
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What about this: http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/...13892/cid/3869. Wouldn't this work? It says you connect it to your canister intake and it sucks off the scum.
I have had protein film build up on my 75 gallon ever sence going topless. I had to remove the film about twice a week inorder to ensure I was getting good lighing into the tank.

I purchased that exact skimmer from the good Dr.s about a month ago and it has worked GREAT. I NEVER have a film on my aquarium now.

If you are having film problems, I highly suggest that skimmer.
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Wow. Thanks! That sounds like a great endorsement. What filter are you using it with? My topless tanks are evaporating so fast I have to go around and do a 10% refill every day or 2. They can get down 2 inches before I know it. Does this skimmer automatically accommodate that kind of change in water level without manual readjustment?
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I'm not sure on FW but we add more surface ripple in SW tanks to help dissolve the surface scum....
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Wow. Thanks! That sounds like a great endorsement. What filter are you using it with? My topless tanks are evaporating so fast I have to go around and do a 10% refill every day or 2. They can get down 2 inches before I know it. Does this skimmer automatically accommodate that kind of change in water level without manual readjustment?

I have it running with my Eheim 2026. Yes, it accommodates for the change in water level. It floats on the surface. It has about a 4 to 5 inch range that it can change.
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