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Old 10-25-2008, 12:30 PM   #11
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That PF300 overflow isn't enough if you intend on using a Mag9.5 for your return. The PF300 can only handle 300gph of flow, and the mag9.5 puts out up to 950gph, that's recipe for a puddle on your floor. You need to make sure that the overflow is rated higher than the return pump you wish to use, so in this case you can select a larger overflow, or a smaller return pump. I'd recommend the PF1200, it's only a little more and will allow you to upgrade the tank later without having to upgrade every piece of equipment.

I'm in the process of setting up a 72g tank, and selected the Octopus NW-150 skimmer. This also allows you to move to a bigger tank without needing to purchase a larger skimmer immediately.
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Have merged your two threads.
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Old 10-25-2008, 04:03 PM   #13
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Yes it looks like it was merged. Probably posted same thread in two or more different forums. Here is a link that`s good to read on starting up equipment needs.

Stock list and tips for maintaining your SW tank.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:43 AM   #14
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Refug Layout and plumbing

If I use the Eshopps PF1200 Dual Overflow Box, What is the best way to run the plumbing? run both into the skimmer capartment or one into skimmer and one into refug?

I was thinking of having the refug set up skimmer-refug-return. the refug centered in the tank with the refug section visible. Please advise.

To make the refug larger is it a bad idea to use a hang on back skimmer? or is it best to have it in the sump/refug?

This leaves me lost on the return pump size needed. How do I figure out the size of pump I will need?

Hogie thank you for the recomendation. I will start out with the 29 gal High. Thank you Micah been reading your basic equipment article and it is very helpful.
Ziggy, I see now, and yes I will be building a new base. I am watching craig list and the papers for a deal.

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Old 10-26-2008, 01:44 PM   #15
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My plan for my dual-overflow HOB is to have 1 line go to the skimmer section, and the second output go to both the skimmer section and the fuge. By putting in a gate T and a gate valve, I can control how much goes to the fuge section, letting the rest dump into the skimmer section.

I had a pic of it, but I can't find it now.
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Neilan, thank you will you have a picture up soon in your thread for your sump on the 72?
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I like having a dedicated tank for my refugium. I'm using a 20g tall just for my fuge. It all depends on the size stand you have and the space you have. Basic suggestion for fuge size is 20% of tank volume.

Neilan got his 72 from me and I ran the same sump configuration on it as I am my 120. The more total water volume you have the better.
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Seperate refurgium and sump.

Is it a good idea to design it so I can build a acrylic tank for the skimmer/sump and use the 29 gal for refug and return( or use an external return pump?)

I am planning on designing the base around the sump and refuge system.
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I think there's benefits to having the sump and fuge seperate from one another if you have room to do so. The plumbing is a little more involved to implement this, but it's not that hard.
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There really is no one way to do things. You kind of have to work with the space and equipment you have or plan to get. If I had my way I would have external return pumps for sure. They are quiet and they don't add heat to your system.

If you are going to build a sump to fit your needs and want to use the 29 as a fuge/return then I say go for it. There is nothing wrong with that design. That is how mine started out. My current fuge (20g tall) was at one time my entire sump. Slowly as I learned more and expanded I upgraded and increased my sumps. Again it all depends on your space.
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